>You have to look for simple and well-build machines I ended up buying an entry level 8 kg Miele - just washes with no smart features & extremely well built. F

>You have to look for simple and well-build machines I ended up buying an entry level 8 kg Miele - just washes with no smart features & extremely well built. FYI: the 7 kg entry level models now come with a plastic wash tub, you need to buy the 8 kg model for the traditional metal wash tub.