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Frankly, any? I used KDE Neon, Fedora, Opensuse and now Debian. They all give you access to the KDE apps suite. I don't know what you mean with integration real

by brnt 4y ago

Frankly, any? I used KDE Neon, Fedora, Opensuse and now Debian. They all give you access to the KDE apps suite. I don't know what you mean with integration really, it's a matter of using their apps (or not, I still use Firefox for example).

rhn_mk1 4y ago
Integrated, as in the package updater UI works together with the OS. Or there are no services that conflict with those running under KDE. Fedora's not been great, upgrades always bring some kind of changes. In 35, I ended up with broken system monitoring applets. Still better than in 34, where, in addition to broken monitoring, Plasma needed to be restarted 3 times before panel drawers unbroke. Never managed to get night mode not get immediately overridden by some other part of the OS.
- brnt 4y ago
  All distros that I've used provided UI for package updates. Rolling releases hugging upstream very closely may have breakage, but that isn't KDE specific. It is the reason I went back to Debian stable, because it is indeed stable. The breakage I had with Opensuse and Fedora was Wayland related as far as I could establish.
  - rhn_mk1 4y ago
    Well, after upgrading to Fedora 35, my UI no longer works :) No, it's not KDE-specific. The failure of integration is distribution-specific.
    - brnt 4y ago
      I can't run recent Fedora KDE either, due to them mainlining Wayland prematurely. Perhaps you have the same? I'm on Debian now, which ships an older KDE, but, everything works, which is a first.
      - rhn_mk1 4y ago
        I had KDE running on Wayland mostly OK, but some glitches caused me to switch the session back to X (in exchange for other glitches I already know how to deal with). I never asked to switch, it happened when upgrading to 35. It also means I don't know how to install the X session.
qwerty456127 4y ago
I used Manjaro KDE for years and always felt like it is perfect.
- 3np 4y ago
  Really? Just in the past year or two I had more than one occasion when an upgrade of the same mostly vanilla system broke the graphical environment completely and I had to manually edit/delete some files to get it back. (That was separate from the other couple of times when some python packages required manual intervention to not yield a broken upgrade but that may have been related to AUR. Not a biggie for me but probably caused frustration for many users)
  - qwerty456127 4y ago
    Never happened to me. I mostly used it on very old hardware Core 2 Duo with on-board Intel graphics though. Everything seems great on a modern AMD laptop as well but I run XFCE (for sake of using the Chicago95 theme) rather than KDE on it and it's been just about a year. Perhaps one of reasons why it worked this reliably for me is I turnt composition off (there is a handy hotkey for that in KDE) but it worked nice with it enabled as well. I only switched it off because I never managed to invent a reason for it to be enabled.

by brnt 4y ago

rhn_mk1 4y ago

Integrated, as in the package updater UI works together with the OS. Or there are no services that conflict with those running under KDE. Fedora's not been great, upgrades always bring some kind of changes. In 35, I ended up with broken system monitoring applets. Still better than in 34, where, in addition to broken monitoring, Plasma needed to be restarted 3 times before panel drawers unbroke. Never managed to get night mode not get immediately overridden by some other part of the OS.

brnt 4y ago
All distros that I've used provided UI for package updates. Rolling releases hugging upstream very closely may have breakage, but that isn't KDE specific. It is the reason I went back to Debian stable, because it is indeed stable. The breakage I had with Opensuse and Fedora was Wayland related as far as I could establish.
- rhn_mk1 4y ago
  Well, after upgrading to Fedora 35, my UI no longer works :) No, it's not KDE-specific. The failure of integration is distribution-specific.
  - brnt 4y ago
    I can't run recent Fedora KDE either, due to them mainlining Wayland prematurely. Perhaps you have the same? I'm on Debian now, which ships an older KDE, but, everything works, which is a first.
    - rhn_mk1 4y ago
      I had KDE running on Wayland mostly OK, but some glitches caused me to switch the session back to X (in exchange for other glitches I already know how to deal with). I never asked to switch, it happened when upgrading to 35. It also means I don't know how to install the X session.

qwerty456127 4y ago

I used Manjaro KDE for years and always felt like it is perfect.

3np 4y ago
Really? Just in the past year or two I had more than one occasion when an upgrade of the same mostly vanilla system broke the graphical environment completely and I had to manually edit/delete some files to get it back. (That was separate from the other couple of times when some python packages required manual intervention to not yield a broken upgrade but that may have been related to AUR. Not a biggie for me but probably caused frustration for many users)
- qwerty456127 4y ago
  Never happened to me. I mostly used it on very old hardware Core 2 Duo with on-board Intel graphics though. Everything seems great on a modern AMD laptop as well but I run XFCE (for sake of using the Chicago95 theme) rather than KDE on it and it's been just about a year. Perhaps one of reasons why it worked this reliably for me is I turnt composition off (there is a handy hotkey for that in KDE) but it worked nice with it enabled as well. I only switched it off because I never managed to invent a reason for it to be enabled.