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Anecdotal. My new life of biking to work ended on day 1: bike stolen in less than 1 hour. And it was from a Sheffield stand too

beachy 4y ago
Bike theft seems like a problem that could be solved, or at least beaten down a lot. Super easy to attach tracking devices and monitor remotely, then just go around and arrest the thieves. There could hardly be an easier enforcement activity. Why is this not done when it seems like bike theft is at an epidemic level?
- camtarn 4y ago
  You'd think so, yes. In Scotland we have a similar problem with motorcycle theft. And lots of motorbikes have trackers on them. Anecdotally * , though, even providing the address that a stolen tracker is reporting isn't enough for the police to investigate. The thought seems to be that the police are simply chronically underfunded, so they're prioritising whatever their internal targets are - presumably violent crime incidents. Obviously this will vary hugely by region and police force. Some of them probably would be happy having easy cases handed to them on a plate. * Very anecdotally! I don't have any stats on this, and the anecdotes come from a fellow biker who is part of an anti motorbike theft campaign group, so take with the appropriate number of grains of salt.
- jml7c5 4y ago
  Bike thieves can be quite professional and experienced, and are likely to figure out common placement points for trackers. Not to mention that they will try to offload the bike quickly anyway, so you have a limited window within which to catch them. And even if you do catch the thief, you'd likely need further evidence to achieve a conviction. It's a frustrating problem.
- n4r9 4y ago
  I recently reported a bike theft to the police in the UK. A few days later I received an email from someone who "screens" incoming crimes. It said "I cannot send the matter for further investigation as the value of the item stolen falls below our threshold to investigate". They didn't even check if there was CCTV coverage in the area. I'm guessing that the bike thieves in this area are well aware of the value of this threshold and operate accordingly. It feels like I'm living in a Discworld novel where petty crime is "designed in" to society. There's a mutual unwritten agreement that the thieves can do what they like, as long as they stick to lower-value items. If you're too poor to afford a replacement, tough luck. Even my home contents insurance was pointless, as the excess was greater than the bike's value.
ls15 4y ago
How was the BIKE_VALUE / LOCK_SECURITY ratio, compared to the surrounding bikes? I always try to achieve the lowest score at the corner where I lock my bike and haven't had a bike stolen for a while.
- silversmith 4y ago
  This really is the key. Make it not worth the effort to go for your bike. Your A->B bike needs to be just capable enough to get you from A to B. Have a secondary cool bike for racing / weekends, if you're into biking. My current commuter bike that I got after having one stolen is a beater, and the lock that's on it cost me more than the bike. Sure, it's not the greatest to ride, but I can leave it locked to the closest lamp post next to wherever I need to go, and not worry a single bit. Also, I like to think that the big, shiny registration sticker helps persuade would be thieves not to bother. Where I live, bike registration costs just couple EUR, but judging from the absence of stickers in bike racks, hardly anyone does it.

beachy 4y ago

Bike theft seems like a problem that could be solved, or at least beaten down a lot. Super easy to attach tracking devices and monitor remotely, then just go around and arrest the thieves. There could hardly be an easier enforcement activity. Why is this not done when it seems like bike theft is at an epidemic level?

camtarn 4y ago
You'd think so, yes. In Scotland we have a similar problem with motorcycle theft. And lots of motorbikes have trackers on them. Anecdotally * , though, even providing the address that a stolen tracker is reporting isn't enough for the police to investigate. The thought seems to be that the police are simply chronically underfunded, so they're prioritising whatever their internal targets are - presumably violent crime incidents. Obviously this will vary hugely by region and police force. Some of them probably would be happy having easy cases handed to them on a plate. * Very anecdotally! I don't have any stats on this, and the anecdotes come from a fellow biker who is part of an anti motorbike theft campaign group, so take with the appropriate number of grains of salt.
jml7c5 4y ago
Bike thieves can be quite professional and experienced, and are likely to figure out common placement points for trackers. Not to mention that they will try to offload the bike quickly anyway, so you have a limited window within which to catch them. And even if you do catch the thief, you'd likely need further evidence to achieve a conviction. It's a frustrating problem.
n4r9 4y ago
I recently reported a bike theft to the police in the UK. A few days later I received an email from someone who "screens" incoming crimes. It said "I cannot send the matter for further investigation as the value of the item stolen falls below our threshold to investigate". They didn't even check if there was CCTV coverage in the area. I'm guessing that the bike thieves in this area are well aware of the value of this threshold and operate accordingly. It feels like I'm living in a Discworld novel where petty crime is "designed in" to society. There's a mutual unwritten agreement that the thieves can do what they like, as long as they stick to lower-value items. If you're too poor to afford a replacement, tough luck. Even my home contents insurance was pointless, as the excess was greater than the bike's value.

ls15 4y ago

How was the BIKE_VALUE / LOCK_SECURITY ratio, compared to the surrounding bikes? I always try to achieve the lowest score at the corner where I lock my bike and haven't had a bike stolen for a while.

silversmith 4y ago
This really is the key. Make it not worth the effort to go for your bike. Your A->B bike needs to be just capable enough to get you from A to B. Have a secondary cool bike for racing / weekends, if you're into biking. My current commuter bike that I got after having one stolen is a beater, and the lock that's on it cost me more than the bike. Sure, it's not the greatest to ride, but I can leave it locked to the closest lamp post next to wherever I need to go, and not worry a single bit. Also, I like to think that the big, shiny registration sticker helps persuade would be thieves not to bother. Where I live, bike registration costs just couple EUR, but judging from the absence of stickers in bike racks, hardly anyone does it.