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I don’t get it. The popularization of crypto is exactly what someone interested in web revival should want (breaking down barriers, rules, walled gardens, etc).

I don’t get it. The popularization of crypto is exactly what someone interested in web revival should want (breaking down barriers, rules, walled gardens, etc). Ponzi schemes have always existed and will continue to exist. We should instead teach people to be more resilient to / be better at spotting them instead of trying to completely remove any possibility of ponzis, which was never going to be possible in the first place.

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10amxn10 4y ago
Mordisquitos 4y ago
What I don't get is what those purported "barriers, rules, walled gardens, etc" are that Web3 enthusiasts keep claiming they are bringing down. I could set up my own website on its own server back in 2004, when Google was still an up-and-coming disruptor, Amazon was just starting AWS, and Facebook was only a glint in Zuckerberg's eye. Now in 2022, when Google is called the "most powerful company in the world", maybe 30% of the internet is running on AWS, and Facebook is sometimes considered a threat to democracy, I can still set up my own website on its own server. What barriers have been raised between then and now? And how do Web3 or cryptocurrencies "break them down"?
- lawrenceyan 4y ago
  You can capture some of the profit flows now, which I think is key. Open source is open source and will always have a place. You should be able to set up a website on your own server whenever you want, but that's different than being able to directly take part in ownership of capital.
  - Mordisquitos 4y ago
    I'm afraid I still don't understand. Which profit flows are you talking about? And ownership of which capital? If I set up a personal website or for a local non-profit organisation with no advertising, there is no profit to capture. And if I include advertising or take donations I don't need to capture "some" of the profits, I already capture them in their entirety. Regarding capital, are you referring to server infrastructure? I can see the appeal of some kind of "hosting cooperative" in which all users of the servers take part ownership of them. These may already exist. However, I fail to see how cryptocurrency would be necessary for this in any way.
Planktonne 4y ago
> The popularization of crypto is exactly what someone interested in web revival should want (breaking down barriers, rules, walled gardens, etc). I think the primary point of conflict might be that web revivalists actually want simplicity, openness, and equality, whereas crypto enthusiasts just say they do.

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10amxn10 4y ago

Mordisquitos 4y ago

What I don't get is what those purported "barriers, rules, walled gardens, etc" are that Web3 enthusiasts keep claiming they are bringing down. I could set up my own website on its own server back in 2004, when Google was still an up-and-coming disruptor, Amazon was just starting AWS, and Facebook was only a glint in Zuckerberg's eye. Now in 2022, when Google is called the "most powerful company in the world", maybe 30% of the internet is running on AWS, and Facebook is sometimes considered a threat to democracy, I can still set up my own website on its own server. What barriers have been raised between then and now? And how do Web3 or cryptocurrencies "break them down"?

lawrenceyan 4y ago
You can capture some of the profit flows now, which I think is key. Open source is open source and will always have a place. You should be able to set up a website on your own server whenever you want, but that's different than being able to directly take part in ownership of capital.
- Mordisquitos 4y ago
  I'm afraid I still don't understand. Which profit flows are you talking about? And ownership of which capital? If I set up a personal website or for a local non-profit organisation with no advertising, there is no profit to capture. And if I include advertising or take donations I don't need to capture "some" of the profits, I already capture them in their entirety. Regarding capital, are you referring to server infrastructure? I can see the appeal of some kind of "hosting cooperative" in which all users of the servers take part ownership of them. These may already exist. However, I fail to see how cryptocurrency would be necessary for this in any way.

Planktonne 4y ago

> The popularization of crypto is exactly what someone interested in web revival should want (breaking down barriers, rules, walled gardens, etc). I think the primary point of conflict might be that web revivalists actually want simplicity, openness, and equality, whereas crypto enthusiasts just say they do.