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This is HN’s classic “middlebrow dismissal,” which serves to end interesting conversations rather than start them. So, let’s try again: what do you like about t

This is HN’s classic “middlebrow dismissal,” which serves to end interesting conversations rather than start them. So, let’s try again: what do you like about the concept, and how would you change it to reduce the flaws you identified?

CrimsonCape 4y ago
Wouldn't it be a lot cooler as a bicycle? If the body were elongated into a canoe shape with a square-stern, there could be a fold-out rear wheel / outboard motor combo, then the front wheel assembly would simply fold into the nose of the canoe. Then if you want enclosure, the canoe could have an enclosed torpedo-like shell.
squarebants 4y ago
What would I change? I would like them not to promote a dangerous and deeply flawed product, or at least be transparent about it.
- dTal 4y ago
  To expand on the theme of "dangerous" - the rider strikes me as being in an extremely vulnerable position, perched high up and at the front of the vehicle. In the event of a collision, the rider will be the first thing to make contact with an obstacle and they will do so with the weight of a boat behind them. The design of the frame is such that if you hit a low wall, you will be launched over the handlebars. It's pretty horrifying that the rider in their ad copy isn't wearing a helmet. At that height, almost any minor accident could result in brain damage. https://betriton.com/static/64fb2c33c24d9797c14aabab4aa3540e/98f0b/Z-Triton-2-TRIKE.webp https://betriton.com/static/64fb2c33c24d9797c14aabab4aa3540e...
- Valgrim 4y ago
  This is the root problem of so many "designer" products which try to combine together different things. Of course those who practice these kind of activity know that the alternative to this bundle of joy is cheaper, safer, lighter and thorougly tested. But it involves buying multiple different things, namely: - An electric bike (or just a regular bike) - A packraft or a collapsible kayak - A tent - Bike bags - a plant pot (why?) So the question is who is this for? My instinct tells me that this is pure investor bait, with no real customer base.

CrimsonCape 4y ago

Wouldn't it be a lot cooler as a bicycle? If the body were elongated into a canoe shape with a square-stern, there could be a fold-out rear wheel / outboard motor combo, then the front wheel assembly would simply fold into the nose of the canoe. Then if you want enclosure, the canoe could have an enclosed torpedo-like shell.

squarebants 4y ago

What would I change? I would like them not to promote a dangerous and deeply flawed product, or at least be transparent about it.

dTal 4y ago
To expand on the theme of "dangerous" - the rider strikes me as being in an extremely vulnerable position, perched high up and at the front of the vehicle. In the event of a collision, the rider will be the first thing to make contact with an obstacle and they will do so with the weight of a boat behind them. The design of the frame is such that if you hit a low wall, you will be launched over the handlebars. It's pretty horrifying that the rider in their ad copy isn't wearing a helmet. At that height, almost any minor accident could result in brain damage. https://betriton.com/static/64fb2c33c24d9797c14aabab4aa3540e/98f0b/Z-Triton-2-TRIKE.webp https://betriton.com/static/64fb2c33c24d9797c14aabab4aa3540e...
Valgrim 4y ago
This is the root problem of so many "designer" products which try to combine together different things. Of course those who practice these kind of activity know that the alternative to this bundle of joy is cheaper, safer, lighter and thorougly tested. But it involves buying multiple different things, namely: - An electric bike (or just a regular bike) - A packraft or a collapsible kayak - A tent - Bike bags - a plant pot (why?) So the question is who is this for? My instinct tells me that this is pure investor bait, with no real customer base.