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Which does not seemed to changed. Of course the they did put a spin on it by saying that the flu and other diseases disappeared because of all the measures take

Which does not seemed to changed. Of course the they did put a spin on it by saying that the flu and other diseases disappeared because of all the measures taken. Heads I win, tails you loose.

kwhitefoot 4y ago
Are you implying that the excess death rate was zero? Or do you have a different definition than I do? The excess death rate is the difference between the current death rate and the rate expected by extrapolation from historical data. See, for instance: https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/08/05/the-real-covid-death-toll-which-country-in-europe-has-the-highest-excess-mortality-rate https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/08/05/the-real-covid-deat... https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220427/Excess-all-cause-deaths-during-the-COVID-pandemic-in-the-US.aspx https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220427/Excess-all-cause-...
- dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
  If I recollect the excess death rate was actually negative in 2020 and slightly positive after that in 2021. In both years in my opinion, the numbers are statistically insignificant. But then I have a different opinion on what exactly is statistically 'significant' compared to most people. We are talking approximately 1% of the population dying each year and excess death rate being in the region of -+20% of this 1 percent. All above figures are approximate ball park figures from memory - so don't hold me accountable to the exact numbers.
  - jjeaff 4y ago
    You are recalling incorrectly. India's death rate during the pandemic is between 3.5 and 4.7 million more than expected. The US has had around 1.2 million more deaths than expected. So something caused a huge increase in deaths. And it was obviously COVID.
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    - dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
      Did you get the total deaths (not excess) from the links you posted? Edit - your numbers are seem correct but the question is, do consider them statistically significant? For me a jump from 2.6 million to 3.2 million is still tiny. Source: https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/per-year/ https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/per-year/

Which does not seemed to changed. Of course the they did put a spin on it by saying that the flu and other diseases disappeared because of all the measures taken. Heads I win, tails you loose.

kwhitefoot 4y ago

Are you implying that the excess death rate was zero? Or do you have a different definition than I do? The excess death rate is the difference between the current death rate and the rate expected by extrapolation from historical data. See, for instance: https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/08/05/the-real-covid-death-toll-which-country-in-europe-has-the-highest-excess-mortality-rate https://www.euronews.com/next/2021/08/05/the-real-covid-deat... https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220427/Excess-all-cause-deaths-during-the-COVID-pandemic-in-the-US.aspx https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220427/Excess-all-cause-...

dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
If I recollect the excess death rate was actually negative in 2020 and slightly positive after that in 2021. In both years in my opinion, the numbers are statistically insignificant. But then I have a different opinion on what exactly is statistically 'significant' compared to most people. We are talking approximately 1% of the population dying each year and excess death rate being in the region of -+20% of this 1 percent. All above figures are approximate ball park figures from memory - so don't hold me accountable to the exact numbers.
- jjeaff 4y ago
  You are recalling incorrectly. India's death rate during the pandemic is between 3.5 and 4.7 million more than expected. The US has had around 1.2 million more deaths than expected. So something caused a huge increase in deaths. And it was obviously COVID.
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  - dennis_jeeves1 4y ago
    Did you get the total deaths (not excess) from the links you posted? Edit - your numbers are seem correct but the question is, do consider them statistically significant? For me a jump from 2.6 million to 3.2 million is still tiny. Source: https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/per-year/ https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/per-year/