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Hottest May in History for Texas

67 points by rdubs333 4y ago

aaronbrethorst 4y ago
Cmd+F "Climate" "Not Found"
- alexforster 4y ago
  CBS Austin is a Sinclair affiliate.
  - aaronbrethorst 4y ago
    I'm not saying I'm surprised. I'm just noting the, uh, lack of a full picture of what might be behind the "hottest May in history." Also, for anyone who's not familiar with Sinclair, they're essentially the Fox News of local news broadcasts. https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/sinclair-broadcast-group-conservative-trump-david-smith-local-news-tv-affiliate https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/sinclair-broadcast-gro...
    - cryptoz 4y ago
      This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. (in case someone missed this, it's incredible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE)
- shard972 4y ago
- LanceH 4y ago
  And, once again, screaming "climate change" when there is a high begets "counter arguments" when it's cooler. Not every article with a hot point of data is proof and shouldn't be treated as such. To be very clear before the knee jerk downvoting occurs, climate change is very real and needs to be addressed, scientifically. Don't bail on the mountains of science to make points in a small article about a regional high over a limited time.
  - titzer 4y ago
    Temperatures, particularly high temperatures, have a distribution. If enough contributing factors were independent, the high temp would follow a normal distribution, and new records would decrease in frequency over time. This isn't what we are seeing. Records are being broken faster than ever; outliers are increasing. So is the average. Turns out, yeah, it is climate change. The whole distribution is shifting over.
    - LanceH 4y ago
      So...when some place has a low, you're going to take that has proof against global warming? Of course not. This article isn't about temperatures distributed over time or the globe. It's about one state over one month. That is cherry picking data and doesn't support global warming any more than one place is cold disproves it. I'm saying to take global warming out of the popularity/anecdote contest, even when popularity and single points of data support it. But I see that people would rather play the popularity game by down voting me. They would also prefer to cherry pick data. Both of these backfire when someone else has enough votes or gets to pick the data. Nothing I've written has been against climate change. It's merely against the, "See it's hot! Climate Change!" style argument which I believe does more harm than good.
      - titzer 4y ago
        > Nothing I've written has been against climate change. It's merely against the, "See it's hot! Climate Change!" style argument which I believe does more harm than good. > They would also prefer to cherry pick data. Stop crying "cherry picking". The 10 hottest years on record for the entire planet have all been in the 21st century. The avalanche of record-breaking heat incidents is overwhelming. If anything, the public needs to have its brains positively bashed in 24/7 with this before attitudes shift. It's like, hey, on average, Dutch people are the tallest people in Europe. And then someone jumps in and says, "Yeah I knew a Dutch guy once, he was really tall!" and then you jump on them for cherry picking. Completely missed the point. I don't know why you jumped in hot for an argument. Despite what you might think you are arguing, holding the line for truth or whatever, you're just creating doubt and muddying the waters, shifting the narrative away, propping up the holdouts, and sometimes, deniers. Regardless, there are several misconceptions in what you posted, thus my comment to straighten things out a little. I generally don't want to invest a huge amount of effort into long arguments on HN, so sometimes I downvote, too. Maybe your comment didn't really...sound right, and got downvoted? It happens to everyone.
cpncrunch 4y ago
We just had the coldest May in 77 years in coastal BC. Both are due to the current La Nina conditions.
- steve_adams_86 4y ago
  It’s been fascinating to see the shift in seasons resulting from it here in BC. I read this morning that snow pack on Vancouver island is currently 90% higher than usual. My wife and kids are going crazy waiting for mountain bike season to open up, haha. My garden is doing great thanks to the cool, gentle spring (and some good fortune that the seeds I planted happen to prefer this weather). After last summer I’m actually enjoying this shift a lot.
- sharkweek 4y ago
  I don’t have high expectations for Seattle springs but this year has been ridiculous.
- Markoff 4y ago
  yeah, last year few months were coldest in Czechia in decades, now I sent my kid to school trip wearing winter pants and winter jacket, because it's effin 2C there in morning, yesterday afternoon there were 8C, mind it's hilly over there but even in Prague yesterday afternoon it was only 16C, that's like end of winter or beginning of spring and not end of may, almost coming summer, insane cold temperatures, I wish we had global warming, because these last few years are coldest I remember in decades Also April 2022 was in Prague 123rd warmest among last 248 years, in light of nonsense how hot are supposed to be recent years, this feels extremely cold to be getting median temperature from last qurater millennium. Btw. the hottest April was in 1800, coldest in 1839, so much for records. https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-domov/duben-praha-klementinum-cesky-hydrometerologicky-ustav_2205071322_bko https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-domov/duben-praha-klementinum...
chrisgnarly 4y ago
So far
- TaylorAlexander 4y ago
  That’s the thing about history…
  - addajones 4y ago
    Yeah, I didn’t know history started in 1925. Title should be “since 1925.”
    - coding123 4y ago
      1925 was a single data point in the article, not the earliest recorded comparing year. In the chart near the top it shows 1902 having the 4th hottest may.
      - addajones 4y ago
        Ah, okay. Thanks, I missed that.
    - autoexec 4y ago
      The earth was once hot enough that nothing could live on its surface. The sun is just biding its time until it engulfs the planet in fiery destruction again. At a long enough timescale records for heat and (eventually) cold become meaningless, but the overall trends recently doesn't look great. I'd put money on this recent record being broken pretty quickly.
  - iancmceachern 4y ago
    The things about history: - It's always being added to (parent comment) - It's nothing but a fable agreed upon - Napoleon - It repeats itself - It's written by the victors - Churchill - It's only remembered by the vanquished - We are not makers of history, we are make of history - MLK Jr And my personal favorite found when researching for this comment: "The very ink with which history is written is merely fluid prejudice." - Mark Twain Reference: https://www.thoughtco.com/famous-history-quotes-2832302 https://www.thoughtco.com/famous-history-quotes-2832302
formerkrogemp 4y ago
It's getting worse, every, single year. The climate is a changin'.
z9znz 4y ago
And I just added to the carbon footprint burning electricity waiting for this. It did indeed take about two minutes to "process". [Edit - continuing after it finished resulted in a blank page. Refreshing the page resulted in "403 Forbidden". Clearly they just do not want you to disable the optional cookies. It is Sinclair after all, so I'm surprised I didn't have to provide voter registration info to get in.] " We are processing the requested change to your cookie preferences. This may take up to a few minutes to process. Processing 67% Some opt-outs may fail due to your browsers cookies settings. If you would like to set opt-out preferences using this tool you must allow third party cookies in your browser settings. Powered by: Company logo for TrustArc "
Lich 4y ago
Wettest May in 40+ years in Western Washington.
- FollowingTheDao 4y ago
  Yeah, I picked the worse time to be homeless in Washington. Cold and wet, non stop. Leaving this week cause I can’t take it anymore.
  - alphabettsy 4y ago
    Assuming you didn’t really have much choice?
    - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
      No, unfortunately not.
  - dgfitz 4y ago
    You chose to be homeless? Or am I misreading that? If you feel so inclined I am quite curious why you chose to be homeless.
    - lupire 4y ago
    - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
      Yeah, you misread. I am disabled, living with Lupus. Lost my housing during COVID because the owners found they could rent my place more on AirBnB to some desperate person who really needed the quiet to work from home. Bought a van in desperation since I had no money for first, last and deposit.
  - rdubs333 4y ago
    Just got back to town after 2 months primitive in a van in Kansas. It starts to wear on you the lack of facilities this country truly has. Housing crisis is a major issue. 7 million affordable homes short, combined with weather extremes.
refurb 4y ago
Wait this article is from May 12th. It’s not “the hottest May on record”, because May isn’t even over? What the article says is the average high/low of the first 11 days is hotter than the hottest month. Uhhh… statistics don’t work like that? You cant compare a part month to a full month and make that claim because your selectively comparing some days to an average of a whole month.
- hervature 4y ago
  I don't know why you are being downvoted when you are entirely correct. It is this type of use of stats that give cheap ammunition to skeptics. For the downvoters, I guess if May 1st is hotter than usual, you're happy to claim the entirety of May will be hotter than usual?
  - lupire 4y ago
    https://www.lcra.org/first-ten-days-of-may-among-the-hottest-ever-recorded/ https://www.lcra.org/first-ten-days-of-may-among-the-hottest... And short term weather forecasting is common technology.
- steve_taylor 4y ago
  It's meaningless to compare calendar months at all. They're entirely artificial. It would be more meaningful to compare something like rolling n-day average maximum temperates.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - me_me_me 4y ago
    Well we have that already. Like since 2000's 19 years had been in the hottest years ever recorded. Thats 86% chance bet that next year will be in the hottest 20 list. Since 70's average mean global temp went steadily by 1C in almost straight line. Anything else is just click-bait articles that don't change underlying data.
- 4y ago
moistly 4y ago
I guess the snarkers will always regale us with their snide dismissal, but as someone who has lived in one place for going on a half-century, I witness the change: winters had feet of snow and now have inches. Temperatures drops are harder, temperature highs have gone from 40C to nearly 50, which is insane. Rainfall patterns have changed markedly, and they’re interfacing with snowmelt and now flood events happen like never before. Because of that, forest fires, too, have gone nuts, because the summers now dry out to an extreme. In this area we have indigenous families that have histories that go back for many hundreds and even thousands of years. I live in an area that had been idyllic for as long as any family can remember, a claim backed by geo/biological evidence. There is no record of the area climate behaving like this. The change has been abrupt and extreme and, frankly, dangerous.
- silisili 4y ago
  I move a lot to different cities, but was able to come to a similar conclusion in central FL in that every house older than 1980 or so had a wood burning fireplace. The thought was so gross to me even seeing them...it rarely got cold enough to even warrant heat. Of course, it was very rare in new builds, and even then usually just the decorative kind.
  - nkozyra 4y ago
    Not to mention the idea that anyone could live in Florida before air conditioning.
    - formerkrogemp 4y ago
      Pretty soon, ie now in Pakistan and India, the wet bulb temperature, a measure of realtime humidity and temperature, will regularly exceed 120 degrees, at which point it becomes too hot for the human body to physically cool itself with sweat. Our climate is changed and changing now. It was cooler in Florida 10-20 years ago, let alone centuries ago. It's hotter now. When hundreds of millions are starving, flooded, overheated, dried out, or otherwise displaced, how do you think life will be going for those without fucking air conditioning.
mistrial9 4y ago
Science blog on related topics https://weatherwest.com/ https://weatherwest.com/
xet7 4y ago
Seems to be 403 forbidden. Text from that article, from archive.org: > Our hottest May in history gets much worse next week > What we have seen so far in the month of May is nothing short of extraordinary. When you take the average temperature (morning lows & afternoon highs) in Austin through the first 11 days of the month, you get 82.2 degrees. That is 1.6 degrees higher than the next hottest May on the list, 2018. I know that doesn't sound like much, but that is a significant margin when looking at multi-day averages. Unfortunately, our lead will only increase with the third week of May likely to shatter numerous records across the state of Texas. > May 2022 is our hottest May in history through the first 11 days. > First, WHY have we been so hot so early in the year? It has been the perfect storm of ingredients including a La Nina phase of the El Nino Southern Oscillation, our worst drought in seven years, and finally a very early showing of a ridge of high pressure that has been stubborn over the southern U.S. High pressure consists of sinking air in the lower and middle levels of the atmosphere, and physics dictates that when air sinks, it compresses, and compressed air is hotter. > Now, onto the forecast for the next 7 to 10 days in Texas. The ridge of high pressure is in the process of reorganizing and intensifying over Mexico, and it will return to Texas as early as this weekend. It won't be in a hurry to leave either with this sinking air situated over the state through all of next week. > In Austin, that gets us to the upper 90s as early as Saturday and near/above 100 by Sunday and Monday. Hitting 100 this early in the year is highly unusual with this marking our third earliest trip to triple digits in Austin's recorded history. We could push even higher though through the second half of next week.
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WaxedChewbacca 4y ago
Proven 4y ago
gwbushey 4y ago
tamaharbor 4y ago
Everyone wherever I have lived thinks their weather is special. “If you don’t like the weather here one timeframe, just wait for the next”. Change is apparently the nature of weather.
- thematrixturtle 4y ago
  /me waves from the tropics, where there are effectively no seasons Although after living here long enough, you start to recognize monsoonal microseasons. It's still ~30 deg C all year around, but the average is a couple of degrees cooler in 'winter', especially after a couple of days of solid rain, and a couple of degrees hotter in 'summer', especially after a dry spell.
- eyelidlessness 4y ago
  I anticipated this sort of response seeing the title but didn’t anticipate it being (currently) at the top of the comments on HN. It’s a pretty myopic take. I live in a place (Seattle) where the special thing about the weather is that it’s temperate and fairly predictable (our version of timeframe in your paraphrase is 5 minutes, otherwise it’s fluctuations within a stable range). Well, it used to be anyway. Two data points doesn’t make a trend, three might suggest keeping an eye on it. Five years running with consistently uncommon heat and humidity and prolonged fire seasons isn’t a weather variable, it’s a change in climate. Again, Seattle has been relatively stable. Relative to global temperatures, we’ve lagged behind the trend. World records have been concentrated in recent years in a way that’s only deniable if your probability models scale to centuries. Local records in other places make that completely untenable as a hypothesis, with some places breaking whatever pertinent record pretty much constantly for several years longer. Weather does change, it’s the nature of living on a spheroid spinning around on a tilted axis with most of its energy coming from a nearby star. Many trips around that star showing similar persisting changes isn’t weather. It’s climate.
swayvil 4y ago
Southern IL. Coldest spring ever. The roses are doing wonderfully. Much extreme seesawing of temperature too.
the_third_wave 4y ago
Here's an interesting graph showing the average insolation for several places in Sweden over the last 40-something years: https://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.181504.1647960904!/image/allgack_1983-lastyear.jpg_gen/derivatives/Original_1256px/image/allgack_1983-lastyear.jpg https://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.181504.1647960904!/image/a... Notice the steady increase (called "global brightening"). This graph is produced and hosted by the Swedish Meteorological & Hydrological Institute (SMHI). They don't produce similar graphs for longer periods nor do they show the correspondence between average insolation and temperature. Fortunately the data is available for Stockholm (see e.g. page 184 of IPCC's AR5 - Observations: Atmosphere and Surface, [1]) which made it possible to create such a graph: https://imgur.com/a/JF5JlxH https://imgur.com/a/JF5JlxH The correspondence between insolation and average temperature is very strong but it hardly ever gets mentioned in the public discourse around climate change. It is discussed on page 186 of AR5 chapter 2 [1] where the observation is made that there is a correspondence and there are numerous studies which come to the same conclusion but as so often is the case there is little to no relation between what the scientific literature says and how the media presents this. [1] https://archive.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter02_FINAL.pdf https://archive.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5...

67 points by rdubs333 4y ago

aaronbrethorst 4y ago

Cmd+F "Climate" "Not Found"

alexforster 4y ago
CBS Austin is a Sinclair affiliate.
- aaronbrethorst 4y ago
  I'm not saying I'm surprised. I'm just noting the, uh, lack of a full picture of what might be behind the "hottest May in history." Also, for anyone who's not familiar with Sinclair, they're essentially the Fox News of local news broadcasts. https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/sinclair-broadcast-group-conservative-trump-david-smith-local-news-tv-affiliate https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/sinclair-broadcast-gro...
  - cryptoz 4y ago
    This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. (in case someone missed this, it's incredible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE)
shard972 4y ago
LanceH 4y ago
And, once again, screaming "climate change" when there is a high begets "counter arguments" when it's cooler. Not every article with a hot point of data is proof and shouldn't be treated as such. To be very clear before the knee jerk downvoting occurs, climate change is very real and needs to be addressed, scientifically. Don't bail on the mountains of science to make points in a small article about a regional high over a limited time.
- titzer 4y ago
  Temperatures, particularly high temperatures, have a distribution. If enough contributing factors were independent, the high temp would follow a normal distribution, and new records would decrease in frequency over time. This isn't what we are seeing. Records are being broken faster than ever; outliers are increasing. So is the average. Turns out, yeah, it is climate change. The whole distribution is shifting over.
  - LanceH 4y ago
    So...when some place has a low, you're going to take that has proof against global warming? Of course not. This article isn't about temperatures distributed over time or the globe. It's about one state over one month. That is cherry picking data and doesn't support global warming any more than one place is cold disproves it. I'm saying to take global warming out of the popularity/anecdote contest, even when popularity and single points of data support it. But I see that people would rather play the popularity game by down voting me. They would also prefer to cherry pick data. Both of these backfire when someone else has enough votes or gets to pick the data. Nothing I've written has been against climate change. It's merely against the, "See it's hot! Climate Change!" style argument which I believe does more harm than good.
    - titzer 4y ago
      > Nothing I've written has been against climate change. It's merely against the, "See it's hot! Climate Change!" style argument which I believe does more harm than good. > They would also prefer to cherry pick data. Stop crying "cherry picking". The 10 hottest years on record for the entire planet have all been in the 21st century. The avalanche of record-breaking heat incidents is overwhelming. If anything, the public needs to have its brains positively bashed in 24/7 with this before attitudes shift. It's like, hey, on average, Dutch people are the tallest people in Europe. And then someone jumps in and says, "Yeah I knew a Dutch guy once, he was really tall!" and then you jump on them for cherry picking. Completely missed the point. I don't know why you jumped in hot for an argument. Despite what you might think you are arguing, holding the line for truth or whatever, you're just creating doubt and muddying the waters, shifting the narrative away, propping up the holdouts, and sometimes, deniers. Regardless, there are several misconceptions in what you posted, thus my comment to straighten things out a little. I generally don't want to invest a huge amount of effort into long arguments on HN, so sometimes I downvote, too. Maybe your comment didn't really...sound right, and got downvoted? It happens to everyone.

cpncrunch 4y ago

We just had the coldest May in 77 years in coastal BC. Both are due to the current La Nina conditions.

steve_adams_86 4y ago
It’s been fascinating to see the shift in seasons resulting from it here in BC. I read this morning that snow pack on Vancouver island is currently 90% higher than usual. My wife and kids are going crazy waiting for mountain bike season to open up, haha. My garden is doing great thanks to the cool, gentle spring (and some good fortune that the seeds I planted happen to prefer this weather). After last summer I’m actually enjoying this shift a lot.
sharkweek 4y ago
I don’t have high expectations for Seattle springs but this year has been ridiculous.
Markoff 4y ago
yeah, last year few months were coldest in Czechia in decades, now I sent my kid to school trip wearing winter pants and winter jacket, because it's effin 2C there in morning, yesterday afternoon there were 8C, mind it's hilly over there but even in Prague yesterday afternoon it was only 16C, that's like end of winter or beginning of spring and not end of may, almost coming summer, insane cold temperatures, I wish we had global warming, because these last few years are coldest I remember in decades Also April 2022 was in Prague 123rd warmest among last 248 years, in light of nonsense how hot are supposed to be recent years, this feels extremely cold to be getting median temperature from last qurater millennium. Btw. the hottest April was in 1800, coldest in 1839, so much for records. https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-domov/duben-praha-klementinum-cesky-hydrometerologicky-ustav_2205071322_bko https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-domov/duben-praha-klementinum...

chrisgnarly 4y ago

So far

TaylorAlexander 4y ago
That’s the thing about history…
- addajones 4y ago
  Yeah, I didn’t know history started in 1925. Title should be “since 1925.”
  - coding123 4y ago
    1925 was a single data point in the article, not the earliest recorded comparing year. In the chart near the top it shows 1902 having the 4th hottest may.
    - addajones 4y ago
      Ah, okay. Thanks, I missed that.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    The earth was once hot enough that nothing could live on its surface. The sun is just biding its time until it engulfs the planet in fiery destruction again. At a long enough timescale records for heat and (eventually) cold become meaningless, but the overall trends recently doesn't look great. I'd put money on this recent record being broken pretty quickly.
- iancmceachern 4y ago
  The things about history: - It's always being added to (parent comment) - It's nothing but a fable agreed upon - Napoleon - It repeats itself - It's written by the victors - Churchill - It's only remembered by the vanquished - We are not makers of history, we are make of history - MLK Jr And my personal favorite found when researching for this comment: "The very ink with which history is written is merely fluid prejudice." - Mark Twain Reference: https://www.thoughtco.com/famous-history-quotes-2832302 https://www.thoughtco.com/famous-history-quotes-2832302

formerkrogemp 4y ago

It's getting worse, every, single year. The climate is a changin'.

z9znz 4y ago

And I just added to the carbon footprint burning electricity waiting for this. It did indeed take about two minutes to "process". [Edit - continuing after it finished resulted in a blank page. Refreshing the page resulted in "403 Forbidden". Clearly they just do not want you to disable the optional cookies. It is Sinclair after all, so I'm surprised I didn't have to provide voter registration info to get in.] " We are processing the requested change to your cookie preferences. This may take up to a few minutes to process. Processing 67% Some opt-outs may fail due to your browsers cookies settings. If you would like to set opt-out preferences using this tool you must allow third party cookies in your browser settings. Powered by: Company logo for TrustArc "

Lich 4y ago

Wettest May in 40+ years in Western Washington.

FollowingTheDao 4y ago
Yeah, I picked the worse time to be homeless in Washington. Cold and wet, non stop. Leaving this week cause I can’t take it anymore.
- alphabettsy 4y ago
  Assuming you didn’t really have much choice?
  - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
    No, unfortunately not.
- dgfitz 4y ago
  You chose to be homeless? Or am I misreading that? If you feel so inclined I am quite curious why you chose to be homeless.
  - lupire 4y ago
  - FollowingTheDao 4y ago
    Yeah, you misread. I am disabled, living with Lupus. Lost my housing during COVID because the owners found they could rent my place more on AirBnB to some desperate person who really needed the quiet to work from home. Bought a van in desperation since I had no money for first, last and deposit.
- rdubs333 4y ago
  Just got back to town after 2 months primitive in a van in Kansas. It starts to wear on you the lack of facilities this country truly has. Housing crisis is a major issue. 7 million affordable homes short, combined with weather extremes.

refurb 4y ago

Wait this article is from May 12th. It’s not “the hottest May on record”, because May isn’t even over? What the article says is the average high/low of the first 11 days is hotter than the hottest month. Uhhh… statistics don’t work like that? You cant compare a part month to a full month and make that claim because your selectively comparing some days to an average of a whole month.

hervature 4y ago
I don't know why you are being downvoted when you are entirely correct. It is this type of use of stats that give cheap ammunition to skeptics. For the downvoters, I guess if May 1st is hotter than usual, you're happy to claim the entirety of May will be hotter than usual?
- lupire 4y ago
  https://www.lcra.org/first-ten-days-of-may-among-the-hottest-ever-recorded/ https://www.lcra.org/first-ten-days-of-may-among-the-hottest... And short term weather forecasting is common technology.
steve_taylor 4y ago
It's meaningless to compare calendar months at all. They're entirely artificial. It would be more meaningful to compare something like rolling n-day average maximum temperates.
- deleted 4y ago
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- me_me_me 4y ago
  Well we have that already. Like since 2000's 19 years had been in the hottest years ever recorded. Thats 86% chance bet that next year will be in the hottest 20 list. Since 70's average mean global temp went steadily by 1C in almost straight line. Anything else is just click-bait articles that don't change underlying data.
4y ago

moistly 4y ago

I guess the snarkers will always regale us with their snide dismissal, but as someone who has lived in one place for going on a half-century, I witness the change: winters had feet of snow and now have inches. Temperatures drops are harder, temperature highs have gone from 40C to nearly 50, which is insane. Rainfall patterns have changed markedly, and they’re interfacing with snowmelt and now flood events happen like never before. Because of that, forest fires, too, have gone nuts, because the summers now dry out to an extreme. In this area we have indigenous families that have histories that go back for many hundreds and even thousands of years. I live in an area that had been idyllic for as long as any family can remember, a claim backed by geo/biological evidence. There is no record of the area climate behaving like this. The change has been abrupt and extreme and, frankly, dangerous.

silisili 4y ago
I move a lot to different cities, but was able to come to a similar conclusion in central FL in that every house older than 1980 or so had a wood burning fireplace. The thought was so gross to me even seeing them...it rarely got cold enough to even warrant heat. Of course, it was very rare in new builds, and even then usually just the decorative kind.
- nkozyra 4y ago
  Not to mention the idea that anyone could live in Florida before air conditioning.
  - formerkrogemp 4y ago
    Pretty soon, ie now in Pakistan and India, the wet bulb temperature, a measure of realtime humidity and temperature, will regularly exceed 120 degrees, at which point it becomes too hot for the human body to physically cool itself with sweat. Our climate is changed and changing now. It was cooler in Florida 10-20 years ago, let alone centuries ago. It's hotter now. When hundreds of millions are starving, flooded, overheated, dried out, or otherwise displaced, how do you think life will be going for those without fucking air conditioning.

mistrial9 4y ago

Science blog on related topics https://weatherwest.com/ https://weatherwest.com/

xet7 4y ago

Seems to be 403 forbidden. Text from that article, from archive.org: > Our hottest May in history gets much worse next week > What we have seen so far in the month of May is nothing short of extraordinary. When you take the average temperature (morning lows & afternoon highs) in Austin through the first 11 days of the month, you get 82.2 degrees. That is 1.6 degrees higher than the next hottest May on the list, 2018. I know that doesn't sound like much, but that is a significant margin when looking at multi-day averages. Unfortunately, our lead will only increase with the third week of May likely to shatter numerous records across the state of Texas. > May 2022 is our hottest May in history through the first 11 days. > First, WHY have we been so hot so early in the year? It has been the perfect storm of ingredients including a La Nina phase of the El Nino Southern Oscillation, our worst drought in seven years, and finally a very early showing of a ridge of high pressure that has been stubborn over the southern U.S. High pressure consists of sinking air in the lower and middle levels of the atmosphere, and physics dictates that when air sinks, it compresses, and compressed air is hotter. > Now, onto the forecast for the next 7 to 10 days in Texas. The ridge of high pressure is in the process of reorganizing and intensifying over Mexico, and it will return to Texas as early as this weekend. It won't be in a hurry to leave either with this sinking air situated over the state through all of next week. > In Austin, that gets us to the upper 90s as early as Saturday and near/above 100 by Sunday and Monday. Hitting 100 this early in the year is highly unusual with this marking our third earliest trip to triple digits in Austin's recorded history. We could push even higher though through the second half of next week.

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gwbushey 4y ago

tamaharbor 4y ago

Everyone wherever I have lived thinks their weather is special. “If you don’t like the weather here one timeframe, just wait for the next”. Change is apparently the nature of weather.

thematrixturtle 4y ago
/me waves from the tropics, where there are effectively no seasons Although after living here long enough, you start to recognize monsoonal microseasons. It's still ~30 deg C all year around, but the average is a couple of degrees cooler in 'winter', especially after a couple of days of solid rain, and a couple of degrees hotter in 'summer', especially after a dry spell.
eyelidlessness 4y ago
I anticipated this sort of response seeing the title but didn’t anticipate it being (currently) at the top of the comments on HN. It’s a pretty myopic take. I live in a place (Seattle) where the special thing about the weather is that it’s temperate and fairly predictable (our version of timeframe in your paraphrase is 5 minutes, otherwise it’s fluctuations within a stable range). Well, it used to be anyway. Two data points doesn’t make a trend, three might suggest keeping an eye on it. Five years running with consistently uncommon heat and humidity and prolonged fire seasons isn’t a weather variable, it’s a change in climate. Again, Seattle has been relatively stable. Relative to global temperatures, we’ve lagged behind the trend. World records have been concentrated in recent years in a way that’s only deniable if your probability models scale to centuries. Local records in other places make that completely untenable as a hypothesis, with some places breaking whatever pertinent record pretty much constantly for several years longer. Weather does change, it’s the nature of living on a spheroid spinning around on a tilted axis with most of its energy coming from a nearby star. Many trips around that star showing similar persisting changes isn’t weather. It’s climate.

swayvil 4y ago

Southern IL. Coldest spring ever. The roses are doing wonderfully. Much extreme seesawing of temperature too.

the_third_wave 4y ago

Here's an interesting graph showing the average insolation for several places in Sweden over the last 40-something years: https://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.181504.1647960904!/image/allgack_1983-lastyear.jpg_gen/derivatives/Original_1256px/image/allgack_1983-lastyear.jpg https://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.181504.1647960904!/image/a... Notice the steady increase (called "global brightening"). This graph is produced and hosted by the Swedish Meteorological & Hydrological Institute (SMHI). They don't produce similar graphs for longer periods nor do they show the correspondence between average insolation and temperature. Fortunately the data is available for Stockholm (see e.g. page 184 of IPCC's AR5 - Observations: Atmosphere and Surface, [1]) which made it possible to create such a graph: https://imgur.com/a/JF5JlxH https://imgur.com/a/JF5JlxH The correspondence between insolation and average temperature is very strong but it hardly ever gets mentioned in the public discourse around climate change. It is discussed on page 186 of AR5 chapter 2 [1] where the observation is made that there is a correspondence and there are numerous studies which come to the same conclusion but as so often is the case there is little to no relation between what the scientific literature says and how the media presents this. [1] https://archive.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter02_FINAL.pdf https://archive.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5...