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> You're supposed to fix the frame to the stand, why are you just attaching the wheel? Are we talking about the same kind? I mean these pieces of junk: https:/

by _dain_ 4y ago

> You're supposed to fix the frame to the stand, why are you just attaching the wheel? Are we talking about the same kind? I mean these pieces of junk: https://twitter.com/PPushbike/status/1511404994007900160 https://twitter.com/PPushbike/status/1511404994007900160

contravariant 4y ago
That one is positioned weirdly high (and not to the ground) though well within the range of the chain attached to the front (which the bike needs to attach securely since it seems to be missing a horizontal bar)
- _dain_ 4y ago
  Chains are inferior to D-locks, so a stand that doesn't work with the latter is a failure. Also as mentioned, these kinds can end up damaging the wheel if any torque is applied to the bike and it tips over (wind, other bikes leaning on it). And I think the manufacturer really did intend these to be mounted to walls rather than the floor. The second tweet shows that it's actually hinged, presumably to allow the bike to come in at a non-right angle to the wall, which wouldn't make any sense at all if it were on the ground.
  - contravariant 4y ago
    What the manufacturer designed these for is irrelevant, you asked if it was the one I meant and I indicated how its different. D-locks are inferior to guarded bike sheds so presumably we can rule out all other bike stands as failures as well? You're free to prefer one option over another but if you bring a less versatile lock for your bike you're going to have more difficulty securing it and your trade-offs aren't the same as everyone else's. For what it's worth I've never seen or heard someone get a wheel damaged by these bike stands. I'm kind of curious if it's even realistically possible, any realistic amount of force isn't going to do much more than stretch a few spokes (in most cases temporarily).

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> You're supposed to fix the frame to the stand, why are you just attaching the wheel? Are we talking about the same kind? I mean these pieces of junk: https:/

by _dain_ 4y ago

contravariant 4y ago
That one is positioned weirdly high (and not to the ground) though well within the range of the chain attached to the front (which the bike needs to attach securely since it seems to be missing a horizontal bar)
- _dain_ 4y ago
  Chains are inferior to D-locks, so a stand that doesn't work with the latter is a failure. Also as mentioned, these kinds can end up damaging the wheel if any torque is applied to the bike and it tips over (wind, other bikes leaning on it). And I think the manufacturer really did intend these to be mounted to walls rather than the floor. The second tweet shows that it's actually hinged, presumably to allow the bike to come in at a non-right angle to the wall, which wouldn't make any sense at all if it were on the ground.
  - contravariant 4y ago
    What the manufacturer designed these for is irrelevant, you asked if it was the one I meant and I indicated how its different. D-locks are inferior to guarded bike sheds so presumably we can rule out all other bike stands as failures as well? You're free to prefer one option over another but if you bring a less versatile lock for your bike you're going to have more difficulty securing it and your trade-offs aren't the same as everyone else's. For what it's worth I've never seen or heard someone get a wheel damaged by these bike stands. I'm kind of curious if it's even realistically possible, any realistic amount of force isn't going to do much more than stretch a few spokes (in most cases temporarily).