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Putin will always push further by saying "cave in to my demands or I'll nuke you". Most of it is bluff. Which like any bluff is scary to call bluff. Russian ar

Putin will always push further by saying "cave in to my demands or I'll nuke you". Most of it is bluff. Which like any bluff is scary to call bluff. Russian army is in corrupt disarray and even tacticals nukes are not guranteed to work. He will probably be disobeyed by his staff. Speaking of ships, the flaghsip of Black Sea Fleet Moskva was sunk by Ukrainians. Putin was reportedly enraged but didn't do a thing besides all atrocities he's already doing. Russian media covered it up for domestic audience. They can sink all of them. He won't nuke anyone. He knows it's a bet on his system he can not afford.

guerrilla 4y ago
> Most of it is bluff. You don't know that and I don't want to risk that. Don't be arrogant. Everyone said his buildup on Ukraine a bluff. It wasn't. I don't think we should ever trust people like you again. > Russian army is in corrupt disarray and even tacticals nukes are not guranteed to work. He will probably be disobeyed by his staff. Yet still winning... > Speaking of ships, the flaghsip of Black Sea Fleet Moskva was sunk by Ukrainians. Putin was reportedly enraged but didn't do a thing besides all atrocities he's already doing. Russian media covered it up for domestic audience. Ukraine doing that and the US doing that are drastically different. If you don't understand that then you're definitely not worth listening to on this.
- lotusmars 4y ago
  > Yet still winning.. Because Germans do not provide weapons they've promised. In fact if they drag their feet more, war may change its course. > Ukraine doing that and the US doing that are drastically different Of course Ukrainians can do that if they're equipped with enough modern weapons and intelligence. The problem is stated above. Germans do not provide weapons, Biden is slow to push them. Additionally because of its energy and political dependence on Russia Germany is pushing Ukraine to surrender territory (along with wheat and ports) to Russia. We don't need direct US involvement, we need strong and decisive leadership.
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    I think it's complicated why they're not winning. Russia has a lot of resources, despite any incompetence. The US is not providing targeting data, nor long range weapons and the US doesn't want Ukraine striking inside of Russia (DoD just said so in the FT yesterday.) There's also the problem with sanctions not being very effective and having serious blowback globally making it difficult to apply more sanctions (EU disagreement on new sanctions was also in the FT yesterday.) I'm sure there are many other reasons we don't even know about... It's not easy.
- glogla 4y ago
  > You don't know that and I don't want to risk that. Don't be arrogant. Everyone said his buildup on Ukraine a bluff. It wasn't. I don't think we should ever trust people like you again. No, most Western intelligence services were saying the invasion is going to happen. It was Putin-supporters like you, who claimed that it is Western warmongering and nothing will happen.
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    > It was Putin-supporters like you, Can you stop with these accusations? Not everyone that disagrees with your warmongering supports the other warmongers.
    - glogla 4y ago
      You are hitting all the Russian propaganda points - Russia is winning, sanctions don't work, Kyiv was a feint, it is all NATO's fault, Russia will nuke everyone, people who want help Ukraine defend itself are "warmongers", etc etc. On top of that, you're accusing people of being arrogant and dismissive and whatever else.
      - guerrilla 4y ago
        > Kyiv was a feint I didn't say this or believe this. > it is all NATO's fault I didn't say this or believe this. > People who want help Ukraine defend itself are "warmongers" I didn't say this or believe this. As for the rest, I'm not sure what problem you have with the truth and someone who has a different risk assessment than you. And yeah, you're literally dismissing facts with references with ad hominem attacks.

guerrilla 4y ago

> Most of it is bluff. You don't know that and I don't want to risk that. Don't be arrogant. Everyone said his buildup on Ukraine a bluff. It wasn't. I don't think we should ever trust people like you again. > Russian army is in corrupt disarray and even tacticals nukes are not guranteed to work. He will probably be disobeyed by his staff. Yet still winning... > Speaking of ships, the flaghsip of Black Sea Fleet Moskva was sunk by Ukrainians. Putin was reportedly enraged but didn't do a thing besides all atrocities he's already doing. Russian media covered it up for domestic audience. Ukraine doing that and the US doing that are drastically different. If you don't understand that then you're definitely not worth listening to on this.

lotusmars 4y ago
> Yet still winning.. Because Germans do not provide weapons they've promised. In fact if they drag their feet more, war may change its course. > Ukraine doing that and the US doing that are drastically different Of course Ukrainians can do that if they're equipped with enough modern weapons and intelligence. The problem is stated above. Germans do not provide weapons, Biden is slow to push them. Additionally because of its energy and political dependence on Russia Germany is pushing Ukraine to surrender territory (along with wheat and ports) to Russia. We don't need direct US involvement, we need strong and decisive leadership.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  I think it's complicated why they're not winning. Russia has a lot of resources, despite any incompetence. The US is not providing targeting data, nor long range weapons and the US doesn't want Ukraine striking inside of Russia (DoD just said so in the FT yesterday.) There's also the problem with sanctions not being very effective and having serious blowback globally making it difficult to apply more sanctions (EU disagreement on new sanctions was also in the FT yesterday.) I'm sure there are many other reasons we don't even know about... It's not easy.
glogla 4y ago
> You don't know that and I don't want to risk that. Don't be arrogant. Everyone said his buildup on Ukraine a bluff. It wasn't. I don't think we should ever trust people like you again. No, most Western intelligence services were saying the invasion is going to happen. It was Putin-supporters like you, who claimed that it is Western warmongering and nothing will happen.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  > It was Putin-supporters like you, Can you stop with these accusations? Not everyone that disagrees with your warmongering supports the other warmongers.
  - glogla 4y ago
    You are hitting all the Russian propaganda points - Russia is winning, sanctions don't work, Kyiv was a feint, it is all NATO's fault, Russia will nuke everyone, people who want help Ukraine defend itself are "warmongers", etc etc. On top of that, you're accusing people of being arrogant and dismissive and whatever else.
    - guerrilla 4y ago
      > Kyiv was a feint I didn't say this or believe this. > it is all NATO's fault I didn't say this or believe this. > People who want help Ukraine defend itself are "warmongers" I didn't say this or believe this. As for the rest, I'm not sure what problem you have with the truth and someone who has a different risk assessment than you. And yeah, you're literally dismissing facts with references with ad hominem attacks.