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FUD, [edit:] IMHO. [not trying to be a dick.] The TSA is not an intelligence organization. Its job is not to secretly develop intelligence. It does not have th
by antics 15y ago
FUD, [edit:] IMHO. [not trying to be a dick.]
The TSA is not an intelligence organization. Its job is not to secretly develop intelligence. It does not have the same problem of needing to not be accountable to the public as, say, the FBI or the NSA.
Second, that claim is a lot stronger than you're pretending it is. If you're going to throw around a term like "police state", you will need a lot more proof than hand-wavy "every day they add new stuff like this". Everything in your argument is attributable to selection bias, and if you're going to level a convincing point, you will need to do more than appeal to the fact that people seem to want to believe this stuff. TBH when you say that, it makes me wonder if you really know what a police state even is.
Third, my point is not that there is no abuse or that the government is incapable of doing bad things, it's that we should be evaluating pie-in-the-sky predictions with actual evidence. "We are becoming a police state, DUH" is not evidence. And neither is the ridiculous claim that tomorrow the OWS people will be barred from flying.
- sp332 15y agoThe TSA maintains a secret watchlist and black list. The fact that this list seems to be arbitrary and disconnected from intelligence agencies doesn't make it better.
- antics 15y agoI totally agree.
- throwawayday 15y agoit actually makes it worse: you now have at least 2 agencies you have to watch
- CamperBob 15y agoTo the extent they are not an intelligence organization, they are not effective, and a waste of funding.
- antics 15y agoOh yeah, I totally agree with that. Seeing any of the organizations up close it is obvious that this is true.
- ck2 15y agoTSA operates VIPR which is doing intelligence gathering.