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This in itself is Kremlin's propaganda 101. Kremlin's most effective propagandist media and influencers are never as blunt as "Putin is good". It's more like

This in itself is Kremlin's propaganda 101. Kremlin's most effective propagandist media and influencers are never as blunt as "Putin is good". It's more like "we never know the truth". "One side says that, another says that", "we don't know who's credible". "Truth is somewhere in the middle". "Politicians are dirty everywhere". "Everything is propaganda". It's effectively the leutmotif of Russian media that aims to disorient and pacify domestic audience and they use it a lot on Western audience as well. A great example was their media strategy on MH17 downing. First they made sure their network of influencers spat out dozens of theories, no matter how contradicting or bizarre they are. "The plane was already filled with corpses". "Ukrainian jet fighter shot it down" (look up their military briefing on it, it's absolutely hilarious with disproportionally huge fake jet fighter pasted on a satellite image). "Spanish dispatcher saw it". "Ukrainian Buk shot it down". "There was no plane". Afterwards give airtime to all the theories by saying "we're not claiming it's truth, but sources say this". Make your head spin, make you doubt everything. With such overload you have no other option but to just tune out, turn it off. There is no truth. Any voice is propaganda. Peter Pomerantes had a great book "This Is Not Propaganda: Adventures in the War Against Reality"[1] on their tactics, a recommended read. [1] https://www.amazon.com/This-Not-Propaganda-Adventures-Against/dp/1541762118 https://www.amazon.com/This-Not-Propaganda-Adventures-Agains...

guerrilla 4y ago
If you don't know that everything is propaganda, I think you're rather naive (and must have missed the first half of the war somehow.) Nobody's "informing" you out of the goodness of their heart. Capitalists and states own media because it benefits their interests and will tell you whatever is profitable for them.[1] You're still not addressing the fact that large portions of the city are still standing, as shown in the propagandists video. Trust me, I saw the large portions that were destroyed by Russia which in my view is terrorism and very sad, but you don't lend yourself any credibility bitching about the truth not being in the middle when it clearly is in this particular case. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model
- lotusmars 4y ago
  > You're still not addressing the fact that large portions of the city are still standing. Thank you Putin for leaving some parts of bombed cities intact! Thank you Putin and his army for not murdering all families in gas chambers, only selectively raping women, executing men and looting their houses! Such a low bar to clear.
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    This is moving the goal post and dismissive. The point is that the view many have been presented is actually biased. As I said, we do not make ourselves credible and build trust by lying and diverting attention.

guerrilla 4y ago

If you don't know that everything is propaganda, I think you're rather naive (and must have missed the first half of the war somehow.) Nobody's "informing" you out of the goodness of their heart. Capitalists and states own media because it benefits their interests and will tell you whatever is profitable for them.[1] You're still not addressing the fact that large portions of the city are still standing, as shown in the propagandists video. Trust me, I saw the large portions that were destroyed by Russia which in my view is terrorism and very sad, but you don't lend yourself any credibility bitching about the truth not being in the middle when it clearly is in this particular case. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model

lotusmars 4y ago
> You're still not addressing the fact that large portions of the city are still standing. Thank you Putin for leaving some parts of bombed cities intact! Thank you Putin and his army for not murdering all families in gas chambers, only selectively raping women, executing men and looting their houses! Such a low bar to clear.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  This is moving the goal post and dismissive. The point is that the view many have been presented is actually biased. As I said, we do not make ourselves credible and build trust by lying and diverting attention.