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While it's almost too mangled to unwrap, it's not that AI has done anything (or even exists), it's that a lot of peoples theory of mind/self stops at artifacts

While it's almost too mangled to unwrap, it's not that AI has done anything (or even exists), it's that a lot of peoples theory of mind/self stops at artifacts language, where language can be redefined with the logic of some small, cost effective ideas, transmitted using media, and now gamified using platforms. The necessary condition for news and stories is a conflict of some kind, and when you start with an idea whose logic is internally inconsistent, meaning you can apply it as evidence of anything, you can produce and represent a conflict over the most mundane bit of stimuli, and this unmoors your critical faculties from needing reality. It replaces truth with the uncertainty of conflict so as to neutralize you to it. Take a few of these broken axioms, and you have enough to write a virus over language that parasitizes minds, and makes the host minds human instruments of its agenda. It's not AI, it's much older, and the logic of an underlying idea. It's like a logical toxoplasmosis infection, where the host will sacrifice itself to spread it. Reminds me of the most uncanny and weird TNG episode I never want to watch again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(Star_Trek%3A_The_Next_Generation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(Star_Trek%3A_The_Nex...

Deritiod 4y ago
I think YouTube is doing this already. Games as well. We are getting addicted to content creators, they get addicted by money, views and the algorithm. Tv was similar but yt is much bigger, catches mich more people and is much more diverse.
meroes 4y ago
Sometimes I think this about huge swaths of human discourse. How we’ve formalized computation and think about it, large branches of philosophy going back to Plato and Aristotle. For example, math has continued to be unreduced to any other theory. There is also no dogma of what counts as math. Is it what follows from intuitionism, from certain axioms (which axioms and why), from classical logical principles (LEM, LNC), from sentences which can be propositionalized or predicated, from psychology and physics? No one has demonstrated they have the answer. Maybe we keep chasing the same rabbits too strongly. Especially since we don’t know how mind relates to world.

Deritiod 4y ago

I think YouTube is doing this already. Games as well. We are getting addicted to content creators, they get addicted by money, views and the algorithm. Tv was similar but yt is much bigger, catches mich more people and is much more diverse.

meroes 4y ago

Sometimes I think this about huge swaths of human discourse. How we’ve formalized computation and think about it, large branches of philosophy going back to Plato and Aristotle. For example, math has continued to be unreduced to any other theory. There is also no dogma of what counts as math. Is it what follows from intuitionism, from certain axioms (which axioms and why), from classical logical principles (LEM, LNC), from sentences which can be propositionalized or predicated, from psychology and physics? No one has demonstrated they have the answer. Maybe we keep chasing the same rabbits too strongly. Especially since we don’t know how mind relates to world.