> Why should this field be hold to much lower standards than medicine, physics, math, chemistry? It doesn't, a good programmer is self evident to good peers.

> Why should this field be hold to much lower standards than medicine, physics, math, chemistry? It doesn't, a good programmer is self evident to good peers. And schooling isn't the only way to get there. I know plenty of academically educated CS grads that aren't a great programmer not because they didn't do well in school (I have no way of knowing but I assume they did well), but because they lacked curiosity and interest into programming.