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> There is no comfier way to travel Have you not been on business class flight?

ForHackernews 4y ago
Still have airport security, that stale recycled airplane air, no dining car, and the crappy little airplane toilet. A nice train is still a better experience IMHO.
- schroeding 4y ago
  That's pretty much it for me too, those things are there regardless of class. Also you have no turbulences in a train, also no safety announcements :D
  - dzhiurgis 4y ago
    FWIW Emirates have a bar and a shower, obvs not on intercity flights tho. Long range flights are so amazing you don’t really wanna leave at all.
- mathverse 4y ago
  It's not about the journey but about how fast you can get from point A to point B.
  - samatman 4y ago
    If that were true, there would be no first class, because paying 3x as much to shave at most 2% of the journey time doesn't add up. Instead, some people who can afford it buy a nicer experience. By extension, people are also willing to add some time to a journey for a nicer experience. Taking the train from Brussels to London is neither cheaper nor faster, but I can't even imagine choosing the plane unless I was desperately skint or it was an emergency where two hours matters (somehow).
- gruez 4y ago
  >that stale recycled airplane air Airplanes definitely have a smell to them, but not because the air is "stale". Apparently the air is changed quite often >Most aircraft cabin air is [...] completely changed 20 to 30 times per hour https://www.cntraveler.com/story/how-clean-and-safe-is-a-planes-cabin-air https://www.cntraveler.com/story/how-clean-and-safe-is-a-pla...
MagnumOpus 4y ago
A business class ticket from Paris to Berlin gets you the same seats as an economy class ticket, with at best the bonus of the middle seat next to you being empty. (If you fly a six abreast A-319 rather than a four abreast Embraer/Bombardier jet that is.) You have the exact same “hurry up and wait” situation with passport checks, luggage checks, ticket checks, then a half-hour worth of seatbelt-on-no-laptop-no-toilet time at the start and end etc. Any traveller who wants to either work or watch a movie in peace will tell you that 4-5 hours on a train are preferable to a 1 hour flight (which is also 3.5h travel time even if you have cabs and a tight timing in the priority security lane).

Still have airport security, that stale recycled airplane air, no dining car, and the crappy little airplane toilet. A nice train is still a better experience IMHO.

schroeding 4y ago
That's pretty much it for me too, those things are there regardless of class. Also you have no turbulences in a train, also no safety announcements :D
- dzhiurgis 4y ago
  FWIW Emirates have a bar and a shower, obvs not on intercity flights tho. Long range flights are so amazing you don’t really wanna leave at all.
mathverse 4y ago
It's not about the journey but about how fast you can get from point A to point B.
- samatman 4y ago
  If that were true, there would be no first class, because paying 3x as much to shave at most 2% of the journey time doesn't add up. Instead, some people who can afford it buy a nicer experience. By extension, people are also willing to add some time to a journey for a nicer experience. Taking the train from Brussels to London is neither cheaper nor faster, but I can't even imagine choosing the plane unless I was desperately skint or it was an emergency where two hours matters (somehow).
gruez 4y ago
>that stale recycled airplane air Airplanes definitely have a smell to them, but not because the air is "stale". Apparently the air is changed quite often >Most aircraft cabin air is [...] completely changed 20 to 30 times per hour https://www.cntraveler.com/story/how-clean-and-safe-is-a-planes-cabin-air https://www.cntraveler.com/story/how-clean-and-safe-is-a-pla...

MagnumOpus 4y ago

A business class ticket from Paris to Berlin gets you the same seats as an economy class ticket, with at best the bonus of the middle seat next to you being empty. (If you fly a six abreast A-319 rather than a four abreast Embraer/Bombardier jet that is.) You have the exact same “hurry up and wait” situation with passport checks, luggage checks, ticket checks, then a half-hour worth of seatbelt-on-no-laptop-no-toilet time at the start and end etc. Any traveller who wants to either work or watch a movie in peace will tell you that 4-5 hours on a train are preferable to a 1 hour flight (which is also 3.5h travel time even if you have cabs and a tight timing in the priority security lane).