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I strongly believe this is already happening due to AI journalism and it is causing a lot of the extremism and division we see in society today. Those articles

I strongly believe this is already happening due to AI journalism and it is causing a lot of the extremism and division we see in society today. Those articles written by AI that grab tweets and post them in the story comes to mind. A positive feedback loop is initiated because Twitter is already setup to amplify extreme views and cause binary thinking. An AI doesn’t care if humanity destroys itself, it maximizes for views or whatever parameter it was setup with.

satellite2 4y ago
> it maximizes for views or whatever parameter it was setup with In a way, it maximizes for its survival
marvin 4y ago
Weird that there’s so much resistance to the importance of figuring out (philosophically, practically) how to align AI to human wishes. The problem is already playing out right in front of our eyes, and that’s with humans in the loop every step of the way.
- 1270018080 4y ago
  Isn't AI aligned to human wishes right now? Hateful rage-baiting news took over television/radio pre-AI. I think most humans are just evil and want extremism and division. Tribalism is what makes humans human. Outsiders need to be put down. Maybe the AI is preying on our primate brains, but it's what we want.
  - JohnJamesRambo 4y ago
    This is overly pessimistic and cynical about humanity. I don’t remember people I met in the street being like this until recently and the social media division started and all the journalists and writers were fired and replaced by bots and reality television.
  - marvin 4y ago
    If you dig into the philosophy a bit, you'll see that there's a distinction between "what we've historically done" or "what we end up doing with a short term, egoistical focus", and "what we wish we would have wanted", "what we would want to do if there were fewer limitations". And to be sure, we don't understand this question well enough that it would be safe to commit humanity to our current ideas of the best solution for all eternity. But we are certain that we wouldn't want a future AI governor of Earth to regularly and randomly pick someone to torture to death, just because that is what human drives have led to historically.
hi5eyes 4y ago
To take this further dead internet theory - bots spamming ragebait/clickbait across social media, bots in the comments fueling more division, rage. I think any rational person would be trying to opt out of the hyper emotional news/internet and not feed the machine, as its a little tiresome/boring to be baited so easily but that could just be bc internet natives are so used to calling out bad bait on forums
hackernewds 4y ago
You could argue AI aims to destroy humanity. Then we really have a problem on our hands.

satellite2 4y ago

> it maximizes for views or whatever parameter it was setup with In a way, it maximizes for its survival

marvin 4y ago

Weird that there’s so much resistance to the importance of figuring out (philosophically, practically) how to align AI to human wishes. The problem is already playing out right in front of our eyes, and that’s with humans in the loop every step of the way.

1270018080 4y ago
Isn't AI aligned to human wishes right now? Hateful rage-baiting news took over television/radio pre-AI. I think most humans are just evil and want extremism and division. Tribalism is what makes humans human. Outsiders need to be put down. Maybe the AI is preying on our primate brains, but it's what we want.
- JohnJamesRambo 4y ago
  This is overly pessimistic and cynical about humanity. I don’t remember people I met in the street being like this until recently and the social media division started and all the journalists and writers were fired and replaced by bots and reality television.
- marvin 4y ago
  If you dig into the philosophy a bit, you'll see that there's a distinction between "what we've historically done" or "what we end up doing with a short term, egoistical focus", and "what we wish we would have wanted", "what we would want to do if there were fewer limitations". And to be sure, we don't understand this question well enough that it would be safe to commit humanity to our current ideas of the best solution for all eternity. But we are certain that we wouldn't want a future AI governor of Earth to regularly and randomly pick someone to torture to death, just because that is what human drives have led to historically.

hi5eyes 4y ago

To take this further dead internet theory - bots spamming ragebait/clickbait across social media, bots in the comments fueling more division, rage. I think any rational person would be trying to opt out of the hyper emotional news/internet and not feed the machine, as its a little tiresome/boring to be baited so easily but that could just be bc internet natives are so used to calling out bad bait on forums

hackernewds 4y ago

You could argue AI aims to destroy humanity. Then we really have a problem on our hands.