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Isn’t that going to result in a highly biased interview process? I suspect extroverts will do disproportionately better than introverts, and those who are comfo

Isn’t that going to result in a highly biased interview process? I suspect extroverts will do disproportionately better than introverts, and those who are comfortable in technologies the interviewer is not will do worse than those who share a similar technical background. I also think the skill cap on this sort of question is super low. (I’d put design questions in a different category though)

vorpalhex 4y ago
What process do you think introverts are going to have an equal footing at that isn't take home homework? And yes, people who know technology will do better.. in a technology interview. I suppose I could ask about gardening but that doesn't help much does it?
- peterhunt 4y ago
  Algorithmic interviews are huge equalizers. Anyone regardless of their social skills or technical background can show their talent. I’m not talking about people who know technology generally. I’m talking about people who know different technology. The process you’ve proposed, if implemented at, say, PHP shop, will rule out plenty of great .NET developers since the interviewer won’t have the context.
  - maccard 4y ago
    Algorithmic interviews optimise for algorithmic knowledge, not on the job capability. It checks for rote learning and time spent preparing for the interview. Knowing how to implement prefix tree or a hash table shows that you've learned solutions, but not that you can write good code in a team environment. Frankly I'd take a worse engineer that worked better in a team over a 10x that ends up silo'ed in 95% of cases.
    - peterhunt 4y ago
      That’s not a fair characterization of how most companies (well, at least FAANG) do algorithmic interviews. A good algorithmic interview does not test algorithm trivia. The question should be solvable with only strong structured thinking and fundamentals. For example, the much-derided “reverse a binary tree” question (I don’t ask it but I think it’s reasonable) doesn’t really require a ton of algorithm trivia. The data structure can be explained in a few minutes and the problem definition can be made super clear and crisp.
      - maccard 4y ago
        I've interviewed for Facebook and Google in the past, and at both, my algorithm questions were textbook leetcode/competitive programming questions. You either know the algorithm and/or data structure and know the answer,or you don't and you fail the interview.
      - Apocryphon 4y ago
        Algorithmic interviews, at least the way they are formatted now (with interviewers silently watching over the candidate at all times, typing notes) also test for anxiety: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23848039 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23848039 Maybe the content, despite it being able to be gamed and drilled via Leetcode et al, is sound, but the format in which it is tested may not be.
- koonsolo 4y ago
  Sorry, but introverts can do oral exams just fine.

vorpalhex 4y ago

What process do you think introverts are going to have an equal footing at that isn't take home homework? And yes, people who know technology will do better.. in a technology interview. I suppose I could ask about gardening but that doesn't help much does it?

peterhunt 4y ago
Algorithmic interviews are huge equalizers. Anyone regardless of their social skills or technical background can show their talent. I’m not talking about people who know technology generally. I’m talking about people who know different technology. The process you’ve proposed, if implemented at, say, PHP shop, will rule out plenty of great .NET developers since the interviewer won’t have the context.
- maccard 4y ago
  Algorithmic interviews optimise for algorithmic knowledge, not on the job capability. It checks for rote learning and time spent preparing for the interview. Knowing how to implement prefix tree or a hash table shows that you've learned solutions, but not that you can write good code in a team environment. Frankly I'd take a worse engineer that worked better in a team over a 10x that ends up silo'ed in 95% of cases.
  - peterhunt 4y ago
    That’s not a fair characterization of how most companies (well, at least FAANG) do algorithmic interviews. A good algorithmic interview does not test algorithm trivia. The question should be solvable with only strong structured thinking and fundamentals. For example, the much-derided “reverse a binary tree” question (I don’t ask it but I think it’s reasonable) doesn’t really require a ton of algorithm trivia. The data structure can be explained in a few minutes and the problem definition can be made super clear and crisp.
    - maccard 4y ago
      I've interviewed for Facebook and Google in the past, and at both, my algorithm questions were textbook leetcode/competitive programming questions. You either know the algorithm and/or data structure and know the answer,or you don't and you fail the interview.
    - Apocryphon 4y ago
      Algorithmic interviews, at least the way they are formatted now (with interviewers silently watching over the candidate at all times, typing notes) also test for anxiety: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23848039 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23848039 Maybe the content, despite it being able to be gamed and drilled via Leetcode et al, is sound, but the format in which it is tested may not be.
koonsolo 4y ago
Sorry, but introverts can do oral exams just fine.