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It's not just Ontario. It's pretty much all of Canada. Everyone should be careful about this. Quebec's equivalent of PEO (Professional Engineers Ontario) is th

It's not just Ontario. It's pretty much all of Canada. Everyone should be careful about this. Quebec's equivalent of PEO (Professional Engineers Ontario) is the OIQ (Ordre des ingénieurs du Québec). People in Ontario and Quebec have gotten nasty letters threatening legal action even for saying they're software engineers on Linkedin. Microsoft fought the law in Quebec and lost. Alberta, BC, and even New Brunswick have similar laws. Other provinces might too.

gruez 4y ago
>People in Ontario and Quebec have gotten nasty letters threatening legal action even for saying they're software engineers on Linkedin. Seriously? Are the engineering licensing organizations really scouring linkedin for people calling themselves "engineers, and sending threatening letters to anyone who's not on their list?
- jbay808 4y ago
  Yes.
- lesam 4y ago
  Yes. When I worked in Quebec (around 2017) the company got a reminder from OIQ that employees should not call themselves Engineers on LinkedIn unless they had a P.Eng. The Engineer title is taken seriously in Canada, similar to how you can’t claim to be a medical doctor unless you actually are one.
oceanplexian 4y ago
Governments are like Religions. Every one of them arrogantly thinks their way is the superior way to do things (Across all sides of the political spectrum), despite the existence of contradictory governments with perfectly functioning, and sometimes better functioning societies. For some reason it seems like the Internet pisses governments off of all stripes, since a Global, free, meritocracy where everyone can compete on an equal playing field is like giving them the finger. And while governments can keep a tight leash on their own citizens with rules and regulations, they can’t make the rest of the world do whatever crazy nonsense they feel like. In this example, Canada will just be left behind in the 21st Century economy.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  > a Global, free, meritocracy where everyone can compete on an equal playing field I don't see the Internet this way at all. While the above was a dream of Internet pioneers, now it's mostly fraud, mis- and disinformation campaigns, and parties using their power to dominate the marketplace. > Every one of them arrogantly thinks their way is the superior way to do things (Across all sides of the political spectrum), despite the existence of contradictory governments with perfectly functioning, and sometimes better functioning societies. That's ironcially similar to the parent comment, and a good example of what is on the Internet. Instead of facts, serious questions and analysis, it relies on trying to create a tide of emotion.
- pbourke 4y ago
  The job title is just “developer” or “programmer” rather than “engineer”. Not a big deal.
- throw0101a 4y ago
  > meritocracy You may wish to examine this concept more closely before thinking it is a completely good idea. Specifically see the book The meritocracy trap by Markovits: * https://www.themeritocracytrap.com https://www.themeritocracytrap.com * https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/meritocracys-miserable-winners/594760/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/meritoc... * https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20919030/meritocracy-book-daniel-markovits-inequality-rich https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20919030/...

gruez 4y ago

>People in Ontario and Quebec have gotten nasty letters threatening legal action even for saying they're software engineers on Linkedin. Seriously? Are the engineering licensing organizations really scouring linkedin for people calling themselves "engineers, and sending threatening letters to anyone who's not on their list?

jbay808 4y ago
Yes.
lesam 4y ago
Yes. When I worked in Quebec (around 2017) the company got a reminder from OIQ that employees should not call themselves Engineers on LinkedIn unless they had a P.Eng. The Engineer title is taken seriously in Canada, similar to how you can’t claim to be a medical doctor unless you actually are one.

oceanplexian 4y ago

Governments are like Religions. Every one of them arrogantly thinks their way is the superior way to do things (Across all sides of the political spectrum), despite the existence of contradictory governments with perfectly functioning, and sometimes better functioning societies. For some reason it seems like the Internet pisses governments off of all stripes, since a Global, free, meritocracy where everyone can compete on an equal playing field is like giving them the finger. And while governments can keep a tight leash on their own citizens with rules and regulations, they can’t make the rest of the world do whatever crazy nonsense they feel like. In this example, Canada will just be left behind in the 21st Century economy.

wolverine876 4y ago
> a Global, free, meritocracy where everyone can compete on an equal playing field I don't see the Internet this way at all. While the above was a dream of Internet pioneers, now it's mostly fraud, mis- and disinformation campaigns, and parties using their power to dominate the marketplace. > Every one of them arrogantly thinks their way is the superior way to do things (Across all sides of the political spectrum), despite the existence of contradictory governments with perfectly functioning, and sometimes better functioning societies. That's ironcially similar to the parent comment, and a good example of what is on the Internet. Instead of facts, serious questions and analysis, it relies on trying to create a tide of emotion.
pbourke 4y ago
The job title is just “developer” or “programmer” rather than “engineer”. Not a big deal.
throw0101a 4y ago
> meritocracy You may wish to examine this concept more closely before thinking it is a completely good idea. Specifically see the book The meritocracy trap by Markovits: * https://www.themeritocracytrap.com https://www.themeritocracytrap.com * https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/meritocracys-miserable-winners/594760/ https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/meritoc... * https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20919030/meritocracy-book-daniel-markovits-inequality-rich https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20919030/...