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Law 6: Court Attention at all Cost (The 48 Laws of Power). Greece is trying to stay relevant.

by akomtu 4y ago

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> Greece is trying to stay relevant Curious what you mean? Beyond the cultural heritage, they’re a NATO member in a semi-hostile state with Turkey and, as of today, Iran.
- chrisco255 4y ago
  Quite a tangent, but Turkey is also a core member of NATO.
  - kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
    Only because they control the Bosporus. It's an alliance of convenience.
    - petre 4y ago
      Not only that, but they're a gate to the Middle East and the Caucaz and it has always counterbalanced Russia in the Black Sea. This is even more important now because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Yes, their current president is a less reliable partner than the kemalists. Turkey and Greece are super important for the regional stability in Southeastern Europe. Together they control most of the waterways in the region. You should view most of the Aegean along with the Sea of Crete as Greece, because it is Greek territorial waters and EEZ
uxp100 4y ago
Is that good? Bad? I think culturally Greece will be relevant for a long time to come because of the construction of Ancient Greece as a sort of origin for “western society.” Economically, well, you have to try something, right? I may agree in the sense that I don’t think Greece would be doing this if they were an economic powerhouse, doing great thanks to oil. But, is it bad to do something not completely altruistically?
- akomtu 4y ago
  The legacy of Ancient Greece is relevant, not the nation that happens to live there today. Greece is bankrupt. It made this cute announcement because it costs the country nothing, and should anything go wrong, it would be rescued by the EU.
  - xaedes 4y ago
    > Greece is bankrupt From 4 Apr 2022: Greece has received three international bailouts from the euro zone and the IMF worth 280 billion euros ($307.19 billion) since 2010. It emerged from its latest bailout in 2018 and has relied on the debt markets to cover its borrowing needs since. “Greece concluded today the repayment of its debts to the IMF,” Finance Minister Christos Staikouras said in a statement. After previous early repayments to the IMF, Greece owed 1.9 billion euros in loans due by 2024, the last batch of a total of 28 billion euros the Fund provided between 2010 and 2014. https://www.reuters.com/article/greece-economy-imf-idUSKCN2LW1Z5 https://www.reuters.com/article/greece-economy-imf-idUSKCN2L...
  - s5300 4y ago
    It may be bankrupt but it’s still an amazing place to live. I’m sure they’ll start catering to digital nomads or whatever & make good revenue off it.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  They'll have to get their citizens to pay their taxes first.

Law 6: Court Attention at all Cost (The 48 Laws of Power). Greece is trying to stay relevant.

by akomtu 4y ago

Law 6: Court Attention at all Cost (The 48 Laws of Power). Greece is trying to stay relevant.

> Greece is trying to stay relevant Curious what you mean? Beyond the cultural heritage, they’re a NATO member in a semi-hostile state with Turkey and, as of today, Iran.

chrisco255 4y ago
Quite a tangent, but Turkey is also a core member of NATO.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  Only because they control the Bosporus. It's an alliance of convenience.
  - petre 4y ago
    Not only that, but they're a gate to the Middle East and the Caucaz and it has always counterbalanced Russia in the Black Sea. This is even more important now because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Yes, their current president is a less reliable partner than the kemalists. Turkey and Greece are super important for the regional stability in Southeastern Europe. Together they control most of the waterways in the region. You should view most of the Aegean along with the Sea of Crete as Greece, because it is Greek territorial waters and EEZ

uxp100 4y ago

Is that good? Bad? I think culturally Greece will be relevant for a long time to come because of the construction of Ancient Greece as a sort of origin for “western society.” Economically, well, you have to try something, right? I may agree in the sense that I don’t think Greece would be doing this if they were an economic powerhouse, doing great thanks to oil. But, is it bad to do something not completely altruistically?

akomtu 4y ago
The legacy of Ancient Greece is relevant, not the nation that happens to live there today. Greece is bankrupt. It made this cute announcement because it costs the country nothing, and should anything go wrong, it would be rescued by the EU.
- xaedes 4y ago
  > Greece is bankrupt From 4 Apr 2022: Greece has received three international bailouts from the euro zone and the IMF worth 280 billion euros ($307.19 billion) since 2010. It emerged from its latest bailout in 2018 and has relied on the debt markets to cover its borrowing needs since. “Greece concluded today the repayment of its debts to the IMF,” Finance Minister Christos Staikouras said in a statement. After previous early repayments to the IMF, Greece owed 1.9 billion euros in loans due by 2024, the last batch of a total of 28 billion euros the Fund provided between 2010 and 2014. https://www.reuters.com/article/greece-economy-imf-idUSKCN2LW1Z5 https://www.reuters.com/article/greece-economy-imf-idUSKCN2L...
- s5300 4y ago
  It may be bankrupt but it’s still an amazing place to live. I’m sure they’ll start catering to digital nomads or whatever & make good revenue off it.
kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
They'll have to get their citizens to pay their taxes first.