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For me, stars have an inverse correlation with actual usage. I'll star projects I want to look at some day, because they seem cool, like Svelte or Vite. But pr

For me, stars have an inverse correlation with actual usage. I'll star projects I want to look at some day, because they seem cool, like Svelte or Vite. But projects I work with daily, I don't need to star them to remember they exits, like React or Webpack.

woodruffw 4y ago
I'm in the same boat. But it seems like there's a broad range of different use patterns for them.
somecommit 4y ago
ouch... I starr-ed Vite like, 1 hour ago... but somehow I feel you are right...
The_Colonel 4y ago
For every professional React developer, there's probably ten people who consider React cool and something to learn in the future, while they haven't even heard about Svelte or Vite.
- kortilla 4y ago
  Doubtful anyone thinks react is cool at this point. It’s more of a thing you just need to use for your job. It’s like Java at this point.
  - yreg 4y ago
    Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2021: - 69% of respondents love React, 31% dread React - 25% of developers who are not using React would like to use it (1st place among web frameworks) https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021 https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021
    - naikrovek 4y ago
      that survey seems like more of a survey of the hive-mind and less of a survey of real opinions. I recall one year there were SO MANY people saying that they loved Rust (enough to make it the most loved language in the survey) but the number of people who answered that they were actually using Rust was far, far smaller. something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose. I think someone could easily cherry pick results from this survey to back any opinion they have, completely independent of any actual "truth."
      - dtolnay 4y ago
        This is a misunderstanding of how the "loved" part of the survey works. > something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose "Loved" specifically measures what fraction of people currently using the technology say they desire to continue using it next year. In the survey there is no such thing as non-users claiming to love it.
      - yreg 4y ago
        So you are saying it represents which technologies the community considers cool? Because that's exactly the context in which I'm quoting it :)
        naikrovek 4y ago
        no I'm saying it isn't a good view into what people actually like. it's a view into what they want the world to be like. people respond to surveys according to what they want the survey results to be, and not how things actually are.
        mountainriver 4y ago
        Isn’t that a lot of what’s cool technology is?
      - mountainriver 4y ago
  - Gigachad 4y ago
    HN is a bubble of negativity. I see juniors light up when seeing react and trying it out for the first time. And I don’t know anyone irl who dreads react.
    - miketery 4y ago
      Agreed, but people (read: I) do dread some of the critical tooling / configs around it (e.g. bundlers). Regardless its amazing how quickly you can spin up a feature rich app these days.
    - recursive 4y ago
      > And I don’t know anyone irl who dreads react. There's not a lot of us, but we're definitely out here.
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scaraffe 4y ago
ben awad from youtube[1] has a slightly better solution for actual usage: stars/tags [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6M_sqAuZo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6M_sqAuZo

woodruffw 4y ago

I'm in the same boat. But it seems like there's a broad range of different use patterns for them.

somecommit 4y ago

ouch... I starr-ed Vite like, 1 hour ago... but somehow I feel you are right...

The_Colonel 4y ago

For every professional React developer, there's probably ten people who consider React cool and something to learn in the future, while they haven't even heard about Svelte or Vite.

kortilla 4y ago
Doubtful anyone thinks react is cool at this point. It’s more of a thing you just need to use for your job. It’s like Java at this point.
- yreg 4y ago
  Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2021: - 69% of respondents love React, 31% dread React - 25% of developers who are not using React would like to use it (1st place among web frameworks) https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021 https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021
  - naikrovek 4y ago
    that survey seems like more of a survey of the hive-mind and less of a survey of real opinions. I recall one year there were SO MANY people saying that they loved Rust (enough to make it the most loved language in the survey) but the number of people who answered that they were actually using Rust was far, far smaller. something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose. I think someone could easily cherry pick results from this survey to back any opinion they have, completely independent of any actual "truth."
    - dtolnay 4y ago
      This is a misunderstanding of how the "loved" part of the survey works. > something like 10% of the number of people who claim to love it have ever used it for any purpose "Loved" specifically measures what fraction of people currently using the technology say they desire to continue using it next year. In the survey there is no such thing as non-users claiming to love it.
    - yreg 4y ago
      So you are saying it represents which technologies the community considers cool? Because that's exactly the context in which I'm quoting it :)
      - naikrovek 4y ago
        no I'm saying it isn't a good view into what people actually like. it's a view into what they want the world to be like. people respond to surveys according to what they want the survey results to be, and not how things actually are.
        mountainriver 4y ago
        Isn’t that a lot of what’s cool technology is?
    - mountainriver 4y ago
- Gigachad 4y ago
  HN is a bubble of negativity. I see juniors light up when seeing react and trying it out for the first time. And I don’t know anyone irl who dreads react.
  - miketery 4y ago
    Agreed, but people (read: I) do dread some of the critical tooling / configs around it (e.g. bundlers). Regardless its amazing how quickly you can spin up a feature rich app these days.
  - recursive 4y ago
    > And I don’t know anyone irl who dreads react. There's not a lot of us, but we're definitely out here.

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scaraffe 4y ago

ben awad from youtube[1] has a slightly better solution for actual usage: stars/tags [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6M_sqAuZo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT6M_sqAuZo