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No, I'm not. If you read carefully you will note that I'm talking about your expressive ability to tell the computer what you want it to do. Not about your abil
by super_mario 15y ago
No, I'm not. If you read carefully you will note that I'm talking about your expressive ability to tell the computer what you want it to do. Not about your ability to express yourself through a medium like video or images.
By the way, there are some great CLI tools (like ImageMagic) to manipulate images from the CLI and these are indispensable for batch editing large collection of images and other applications (image analysis), but I was not referring to that.
- stonemetal 15y agoOk so I want to select the pretty green color from a photo for future use. In MS paint it would be two actions select the color selection tool and select the color. How do you do that from the CLI in more expressive way?
- recoiledsnake 15y ago>man paint Zillion lines of text scroll by swear >man paint | less go through 10 pages of text before finding the /pickcolour command >paint /pickcolor /x 123 /y 843 how the pixel position was found is left as an exercise for the reader option pickcolor not found curse and rerun the man and scroll through all the pages again realize it's /pickcolour and not /pickcolor >paint /pickcolor /x 123 /y 843 red gets selected after more furious rtfm'ing and Bing'ing(on Lynx of course), realize pickcolor uses coordinate calculation from the bottom right and not top left When you need to do this again in a month, forget the command and the spelling and repeat all of the above again.
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- marshray 15y agoHow do you edit a text document using MS paint? Anyone can pick examples that make the discussion go nowhere. That's why this discussion never feels like it makes any progress.
- ugh 15y agoWhy should you be able to edit a text document with MS Paint? I don’t understand the point you are making.
- marshray 15y agoWhy should you be able to "select the pretty green color from a photo" via the CLI? That's my point - just because it's the wrong tool for some hyperspecific job doesn't imply anything useful in general. But if you really want to pursue the analogy, we could in fact come up with a command line that selects the green color value from a certain area of an image a lot easier than one could edit a non-image file using MS Paint (though I've seen that done too).
- ugh 15y agoI don’t see your point. I think we have to go back to basics. GUIs can be and are widely used for expression. I already listed many examples that touch on wide array of human creativity and creation. I’m not trying to bring down CLIs. I take issue only when people claim that GUIs are not for expression. Why does Photoshop have to be good at word processing in order for it to be a valuable tool for expression?
- marshray 15y agoI think GUIs and CLIs can both be "valuable tools for expression". But Photoshop is an example of something that's particularly good for the GUI. It's not representative of most things that people do when they're interacting with a computer.
- ugh 15y agoYeah, so you are agreeing with me and disagreeing with the author. His analogy sucks. GUIs and CLIs are for expression.
- stonemetal 15y ago
- super_mario 15y agohttp://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/color_mods/ http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/color_mods/