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Why did it happen?

sdmike1 4y ago
Good question, my understanding is that we frankly just don't know, it may be one of those things that we can't know, but that is getting awfully close to the realm of philosophy
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > it may be one of those things that we can't know This is true for anything we don’t know. For the Big Bang, we know the intermediate problem: black holes. Gravity and quantum mechanics interacting at the same scale. The singularities there are accessible in a way the singularity of the Big Bang is not.
zokula 4y ago
beeforpork 4y ago
Nice try, I'd also like to know. But I am afraid no-one here will be able to answer you. But maybe we're lucky -- I'll monitor this thread. We can never know the answer, because any possible cause was outside of our observable universe. Inside of our universe, time started at the big bang, so there was no 'before' and thus there was no cause, because the cause needs the time to be before the effect.
- hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
  Well, if it's true the universe will start contracting at some point (which, some speculate, could happen sooner than we had thought[0]), and if a big crunch leads to a big bang, it is not impossible that this very moment - in the sense of these actual circumstances we're in - already happened an infinite number of times. (Still doesn't really answer the 'why?') [0] https://www.independent.co.uk/space/universe-expanding-collapse-dark-energy-b2071272.html https://www.independent.co.uk/space/universe-expanding-colla...
burnished 4y ago
eeuugh, marketing thought it would make a splash and fucking sales wanted more people to talk at
jquery 4y ago
Someone outside the universe hit "build" on their "universe sandbox generator". The sandbox is still loading from our perspective, although from their perspective perhaps it loads instantaneously. I mean, obviously this is nonsense, but... I can't exactly disprove it.
- hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
  It looks each epoch speaks about the universe in its own terms: as gods' creation, as a machine, as a computer, AI... So while there is no way to disprove the sandbox theory you presented, we can be 100% sure that at some point in time people will see it in a different way, and then it will change again and again. Sometimes I feel sad that there are so many mysteries of the universe and so few of them will be discovered during my lifetime.
  - polishdude20 4y ago
    I think one reason we want to discover more about the universe is because it gives us a sense of awe and a sense of powers greater than us. One useful trick if you're missing that is to take some mushrooms while you watch some space documentaries. Sure you don't really discover anything groundbreaking but it does open up the mind and you will definitely experience awe.
- withinboredom 4y ago
  There's a book I read that specified that the universe could be "stateless" to an outside observer, yet the simple act of computing it allows us to exist.
  - jquery 4y ago
    I think that’s a modern way (or maybe techie?) way to think of the old adage that time is an illusion.

Why did it happen?

Good question, my understanding is that we frankly just don't know, it may be one of those things that we can't know, but that is getting awfully close to the realm of philosophy

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
> it may be one of those things that we can't know This is true for anything we don’t know. For the Big Bang, we know the intermediate problem: black holes. Gravity and quantum mechanics interacting at the same scale. The singularities there are accessible in a way the singularity of the Big Bang is not.

zokula 4y ago

beeforpork 4y ago

Nice try, I'd also like to know. But I am afraid no-one here will be able to answer you. But maybe we're lucky -- I'll monitor this thread. We can never know the answer, because any possible cause was outside of our observable universe. Inside of our universe, time started at the big bang, so there was no 'before' and thus there was no cause, because the cause needs the time to be before the effect.

hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
Well, if it's true the universe will start contracting at some point (which, some speculate, could happen sooner than we had thought[0]), and if a big crunch leads to a big bang, it is not impossible that this very moment - in the sense of these actual circumstances we're in - already happened an infinite number of times. (Still doesn't really answer the 'why?') [0] https://www.independent.co.uk/space/universe-expanding-collapse-dark-energy-b2071272.html https://www.independent.co.uk/space/universe-expanding-colla...

burnished 4y ago

eeuugh, marketing thought it would make a splash and fucking sales wanted more people to talk at

jquery 4y ago

Someone outside the universe hit "build" on their "universe sandbox generator". The sandbox is still loading from our perspective, although from their perspective perhaps it loads instantaneously. I mean, obviously this is nonsense, but... I can't exactly disprove it.

hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
It looks each epoch speaks about the universe in its own terms: as gods' creation, as a machine, as a computer, AI... So while there is no way to disprove the sandbox theory you presented, we can be 100% sure that at some point in time people will see it in a different way, and then it will change again and again. Sometimes I feel sad that there are so many mysteries of the universe and so few of them will be discovered during my lifetime.
- polishdude20 4y ago
  I think one reason we want to discover more about the universe is because it gives us a sense of awe and a sense of powers greater than us. One useful trick if you're missing that is to take some mushrooms while you watch some space documentaries. Sure you don't really discover anything groundbreaking but it does open up the mind and you will definitely experience awe.
withinboredom 4y ago
There's a book I read that specified that the universe could be "stateless" to an outside observer, yet the simple act of computing it allows us to exist.
- jquery 4y ago
  I think that’s a modern way (or maybe techie?) way to think of the old adage that time is an illusion.