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The UK is well known for unaffordable, poor-quality housing. I'm not sure why you're holding it up as a good example.

by coryrc 4y ago

sofixa 4y ago
London is well known for unaffordable housing, is the UK as a whole? As for the quality, same as in France and other countries with similar profiles, old housing is of ( comparatively for today) poor quality, but it's getting progressively upgraded and replaced. Having lived in neither, going off reports I'll take the UK, even with Grenfell, than the US(where the Florida collapse compensates for Grenfell).
- coryrc 4y ago
  Outside of council housing, it's similar to the US now: either it's expensive where there are jobs or cheap where jobs aren't available. London MSA is 1/7 of the population, so it's pretty relevant.
lol768 4y ago
> I'm not sure why you're holding it up as a good example. Because it has the regulatory requirements I detailed in my post for housing developers. > The UK is well known for unaffordable, poor-quality housing And houses in the states aren't poor quality? Do builders over there even know what bricks are? Freeholds in some areas have a reputation for being unaffordable, sure. I'm not so sure that the shared ownership and affordable rent properties I refer to have this reputation, but it is clear that there's not nearly enough housing stock for demand. Quality is definitely variable across all housing stock, but I'm not sure I'd say all new builds are of a poor quality.
- coryrc 4y ago
  > Because it has the regulatory requirements I detailed in my post for housing developers. And they don't work to make housing affordable, so not achieving the end goal. > And houses in the states aren't poor quality? Do builders over there even know what bricks are? More than a third of Britons cannot afford to heat their home to a comfortable level: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/01/26/more-third-britons-cannot-afford-heat-their-home-c https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/0... My wood home is insulated, dry, and affordable to heat.
- DrScump 4y ago
  >Do builders over there even know what bricks are? Builders over here in earthquake country are constrained by earthquake and fire mitigation materials. Plus masonry isn't energy-efficient. BTW, I highly recommend the PBS series "Home Diagnosis" for modern home building strategies and testing of insulation and airflow.

The UK is well known for unaffordable, poor-quality housing. I'm not sure why you're holding it up as a good example.

by coryrc 4y ago

The UK is well known for unaffordable, poor-quality housing. I'm not sure why you're holding it up as a good example.

London is well known for unaffordable housing, is the UK as a whole? As for the quality, same as in France and other countries with similar profiles, old housing is of ( comparatively for today) poor quality, but it's getting progressively upgraded and replaced. Having lived in neither, going off reports I'll take the UK, even with Grenfell, than the US(where the Florida collapse compensates for Grenfell).

coryrc 4y ago
Outside of council housing, it's similar to the US now: either it's expensive where there are jobs or cheap where jobs aren't available. London MSA is 1/7 of the population, so it's pretty relevant.

lol768 4y ago

> I'm not sure why you're holding it up as a good example. Because it has the regulatory requirements I detailed in my post for housing developers. > The UK is well known for unaffordable, poor-quality housing And houses in the states aren't poor quality? Do builders over there even know what bricks are? Freeholds in some areas have a reputation for being unaffordable, sure. I'm not so sure that the shared ownership and affordable rent properties I refer to have this reputation, but it is clear that there's not nearly enough housing stock for demand. Quality is definitely variable across all housing stock, but I'm not sure I'd say all new builds are of a poor quality.

coryrc 4y ago
> Because it has the regulatory requirements I detailed in my post for housing developers. And they don't work to make housing affordable, so not achieving the end goal. > And houses in the states aren't poor quality? Do builders over there even know what bricks are? More than a third of Britons cannot afford to heat their home to a comfortable level: https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/01/26/more-third-britons-cannot-afford-heat-their-home-c https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/0... My wood home is insulated, dry, and affordable to heat.
DrScump 4y ago
>Do builders over there even know what bricks are? Builders over here in earthquake country are constrained by earthquake and fire mitigation materials. Plus masonry isn't energy-efficient. BTW, I highly recommend the PBS series "Home Diagnosis" for modern home building strategies and testing of insulation and airflow.