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I've been searching for my first junior/entry level position for 4 months now. There's very few junior/entry positions, and the ones that are posted are asking

by vinyl7 4y ago

I've been searching for my first junior/entry level position for 4 months now. There's very few junior/entry positions, and the ones that are posted are asking for 2-3 years experience, and a Bachelors/Masters/PHD...for web development. The market is either asking for senior developers at senior pay, or mid-senior level developers at entry level pay. I'm not the kind of person who would job hop every 2 years like what seems to be common in the industry. If a company is willing to take me on and help train me and bring me up to speed, I'd stay with them for 4+ years. I'd think that would be very valuable to a company, but at least what I read on the internet...companies have come to expect a high turnover for developers and thus are unwilling to put in any effort into a new employee.

DeathArrow 4y ago
What kind of studies do you have? Do you know the basics of like CS, algorithms, data structures? Do you know a programming language at a decent level? For the field you are trying to get in, do you know some common used frameworks, libraries and tools? If the answer is yes to all, you shouldn't have trouble to find a job. If one of the answers is a no, then you have to solve that problem.
- vinyl7 4y ago
  I'm mostly self taught. Been programming as a hobby for 10+ years, mostly focused on learning game development but have also done web development. I have "shipped" two Ludum Dare games done in C++, and I have a web app I recently developed with React/PHP/MySQL for an organization that is deployed. The only credential I have is a Full Stack Web development cert from a bootcamp at a big name university. The DSA stuff I self-taught because it's pretty essential to game dev, and the bootcamp taught me the MERN stack.
  - DeathArrow 4y ago
    Without formal education it is going to be a bit harder. You can test yourself by seeing if you can answer typical interview questions which can be found online. You can see if you can solve the stuff from Codility, Leetcode, Hackerranck in a reasonable amount of time.
dghlsakjg 4y ago
If no one’s told you yet: the experience list on a job listing are a wish list, not a requirement list. Frequently it is a wildly unrealistic wish list. I have NEVER seen all of those requirements fulfilled.
- b3morales 4y ago
  This. Crucially, the actual interviewers/hiring committee may not have even read the job posting. They have the technical expertise and know what they are looking for; the HR/recruiters filtering at the front end are considerably less clueful. You do need to get past that filter, but after that, the bullet list is all but irrelevant.
KptMarchewa 4y ago
>I'm not the kind of person who would job hop every 2 years like what seems to be common in the industry. ...you haven't even started. If you were regularly getting offers with 50%, 100%, or 200% more than you currently earn you'd rethink that position pretty quick.

by vinyl7 4y ago

DeathArrow 4y ago

What kind of studies do you have? Do you know the basics of like CS, algorithms, data structures? Do you know a programming language at a decent level? For the field you are trying to get in, do you know some common used frameworks, libraries and tools? If the answer is yes to all, you shouldn't have trouble to find a job. If one of the answers is a no, then you have to solve that problem.

vinyl7 4y ago
I'm mostly self taught. Been programming as a hobby for 10+ years, mostly focused on learning game development but have also done web development. I have "shipped" two Ludum Dare games done in C++, and I have a web app I recently developed with React/PHP/MySQL for an organization that is deployed. The only credential I have is a Full Stack Web development cert from a bootcamp at a big name university. The DSA stuff I self-taught because it's pretty essential to game dev, and the bootcamp taught me the MERN stack.
- DeathArrow 4y ago
  Without formal education it is going to be a bit harder. You can test yourself by seeing if you can answer typical interview questions which can be found online. You can see if you can solve the stuff from Codility, Leetcode, Hackerranck in a reasonable amount of time.

dghlsakjg 4y ago

If no one’s told you yet: the experience list on a job listing are a wish list, not a requirement list. Frequently it is a wildly unrealistic wish list. I have NEVER seen all of those requirements fulfilled.

b3morales 4y ago
This. Crucially, the actual interviewers/hiring committee may not have even read the job posting. They have the technical expertise and know what they are looking for; the HR/recruiters filtering at the front end are considerably less clueful. You do need to get past that filter, but after that, the bullet list is all but irrelevant.

KptMarchewa 4y ago

>I'm not the kind of person who would job hop every 2 years like what seems to be common in the industry. ...you haven't even started. If you were regularly getting offers with 50%, 100%, or 200% more than you currently earn you'd rethink that position pretty quick.