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Not going to knock these solutions but at least for Tailscale, if I understand what I read on their web site correctly, I think it's built on Wireguard. I found

Not going to knock these solutions but at least for Tailscale, if I understand what I read on their web site correctly, I think it's built on Wireguard. I found Wireguard to be easy enough to configure and get working and I'm lazy and cheap. Since then, I run my web and email servers on an old laptop in my home and the Internet POP is a $3.50 VM plus $1 for a static IP, at AWS Lightsail. This works for me but if I needed to connect a disparate office and devices together I might look at Tailscale or one of these packaged solutions, or maybe not.

dstanbro 4y ago
you can run netmaker in a lightsail VPS. Similar functionality / UI experience to tailscale but self-hosted
- LoveGracePeace 4y ago
  It looks impressive.
- razemio 4y ago
  Sadly not open source and their change notes are not yet production ready. Every release something breaks. I switched back to pure wireguard because of this. I also wouldn't call tailscale and netmakers ui comparable. Netmaker has far more options. Tailscale tries an apple approach by hiding almost everything but DNS.
  - cassianoleal 4y ago
    > Sadly not open source Just to clarify this take, the source is available on Github [0] but licensed under the highly controversial Server Side Public License [1][2]. This license was originally written by MongoDB. They applied to get it recognised as an open source license with the OSI but later withdrew the application as it became clear it wouldn't have been approved. OSI explained in 2019 [3] why it didn't consider the license to be open source. [0] https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker [1] https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker/blob/master/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker/blob/master/LICENSE.txt [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Public_License https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Public_License [3] https://opensource.org/node/1099 https://opensource.org/node/1099
- ptman 4y ago
  In case you want open source self-hosted tailscale there's https://github.com/juanfont/headscale https://github.com/juanfont/headscale
lapser 4y ago
It is indeed built on Wireguard, but it is a user space implementation of Wireguard. Maybe that's fine, but kernel space would allow much faster speeds.

dstanbro 4y ago

you can run netmaker in a lightsail VPS. Similar functionality / UI experience to tailscale but self-hosted

LoveGracePeace 4y ago
It looks impressive.
razemio 4y ago
Sadly not open source and their change notes are not yet production ready. Every release something breaks. I switched back to pure wireguard because of this. I also wouldn't call tailscale and netmakers ui comparable. Netmaker has far more options. Tailscale tries an apple approach by hiding almost everything but DNS.
- cassianoleal 4y ago
  > Sadly not open source Just to clarify this take, the source is available on Github [0] but licensed under the highly controversial Server Side Public License [1][2]. This license was originally written by MongoDB. They applied to get it recognised as an open source license with the OSI but later withdrew the application as it became clear it wouldn't have been approved. OSI explained in 2019 [3] why it didn't consider the license to be open source. [0] https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker [1] https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker/blob/master/LICENSE.txt https://github.com/gravitl/netmaker/blob/master/LICENSE.txt [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Public_License https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Side_Public_License [3] https://opensource.org/node/1099 https://opensource.org/node/1099
ptman 4y ago
In case you want open source self-hosted tailscale there's https://github.com/juanfont/headscale https://github.com/juanfont/headscale

lapser 4y ago

It is indeed built on Wireguard, but it is a user space implementation of Wireguard. Maybe that's fine, but kernel space would allow much faster speeds.