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The ability to have separate sessions was actually the reason I switched to chrome many years ago, looks like it’s time to give Firefox another look

by dools 4y ago

zelphirkalt 4y ago
Although Firefox had profiles for ages and you could start Firefox with the profile manager and "new instance allowed" to choose a profile at the start of each new instance. More hidden then in Chromium, but definitely possible. EDIT: Just for completeness sake, here is the command to open Firefox with profile manager and new instances: firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager %u
- kevincox 4y ago
  Yes, but with this UX it may as well not exist for 99% of users. Container tabs while still a little power-user is something that can be explained to the average user.
  - anonymousab 4y ago
    One of the major problems with container tabs is that they share a lot of persistent state between them, such as browsing history. Profiles are mostly isolated by comparison.
- commoner 4y ago
  The Firefox Profile Switcher add-on provides an easy-to-use interface that looks just like Chrome's: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switcher/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switc... You'll need to install a connector for it to work. (The add-on gives instructions during the onboarding process.) Both the add-on and the connector are free and open source (GPLv3). I use profiles and containers together on Firefox. Each profile has its own set of add-ons, browser settings, and containers. Containers in the same profile share the same add-ons and browser settings. For example, you could have separate personal and work profiles, with containers for different online accounts in each profile. On Firefox, you have the option of using only profiles, only containers, both profiles and containers, or none of the above.
  - chiefalchemist 4y ago
    I've been looking for something like that. Thanks. But ideally, I don't want to swithswitch profiles. I want to have muliple instances of FF open, each with a different profile. Just like Chromium based browsers and users. Anything for that?
    - commoner 4y ago
      When you choose a different profile in the Firefox Profile Switcher menu, it opens a new instance of Firefox with the new profile. The add-on experience will be very familiar if you've used Chromium's profile management features. If you're trying to create a shortcut to Firefox that launches a profile other than the one you've selected as the default, the instructions for Linux and Windows are here: https://kb.mozillazine.org/Shortcut_to_a_specific_profile https://kb.mozillazine.org/Shortcut_to_a_specific_profile This is not necessary to use the profile feature, but some people prefer to launch profiles from shortcuts instead of a menu.
    - fsflover 4y ago
      This is how I use Firefox; you need Qubes OS for that.
    - lukewiwa 4y ago
      go to about:profiles in the omnibar and you'll be able to open multiple profiles from there. You can also do other general management of profiles.
  - cmg 4y ago
    I'm going to have to give this a try. I manage multiple Google Workspace accounts for clients and have stuck to Chrome for those as I have a profile set up for each account. Yes, you can log in to multiple Google accounts in any browser, but then it defaults to the first account for new windows. The two final things that would get me off Chrome entirely: * When I'm using my external USB microphone in a web-based conference system (mostly Cleanfeed but I've also seen it with Streamyard and Jitsi) my audio gets extremely robotic after a few minutes and it somehow impacts my entire system - I have to unplug the microphone to fix it. * Dropbox, for some reason, hangs at 1 second left when uploading larger files (appx 60MB or so)
- jordemort 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure the profile manager stuff in Firefox goes all the way back to the Netscape 4 days. If I recall correctly, back in the way back, it used to throw you into Profile Manager and walk you through creating your initial one on first launch of fresh installs. At some point they tucked that under the rug and just started creating the default profile automatically - maybe because it made less sense to ask for a bunch of personal information up-front when the browser was broken off from the mail client? Now most people have forgotten that Profile Manager even exists, but it's been there the whole time.
  - johnny22 4y ago
    my parents rely on Profile Manager. I set that up for them years ago, since my mom uses my dad's computer a bit every day. She has no need for a whole user account. Separating the stuff in the browser is enough.
prox 4y ago
I hope you become a full time user, lets curb the direction Google wants to go in.
- ChuckNorris89 4y ago
  Even if the entire HN community would switch to Firefox, it would still be a drop in the ocean to curbing Chrome's market share. Also Firefox hasn't been doing itself any favors by alienating both the average Joe consumers and the professional devs over the years.
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    No it wouldn't, that's just pessimism. The entire HN community switching would have massive second-order effects. People would see experts (us) using it, we'd promote it and install it for people, we'd speak positively about it, we'd develop with it, etc. (I won't write the whole list.)
    - hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
      Not only that. Every few weeks I come across a site that works better in Chrome than in FF or has some quirks (Google's spreadsheets are a good example - they feel slower in FF). Although I have no hope of changing the mindset of HNers working at Google, the rest of us could make a difference.
      - dhimes 4y ago
        Yeah I hate that. I still have a problem seeing comments on youtube in firefox, even when I'm logged in. Not sure we're going to be able to fix if google targets their properties to only their browser, outside of a lawsuit or gov't action.
        Kelm 4y ago
        I daily drive Firefox for a few years now, including watching youtube - never faced your issue… Maybe a misbehaving extension?

The ability to have separate sessions was actually the reason I switched to chrome many years ago, looks like it’s time to give Firefox another look

by dools 4y ago

The ability to have separate sessions was actually the reason I switched to chrome many years ago, looks like it’s time to give Firefox another look

zelphirkalt 4y ago

Although Firefox had profiles for ages and you could start Firefox with the profile manager and "new instance allowed" to choose a profile at the start of each new instance. More hidden then in Chromium, but definitely possible. EDIT: Just for completeness sake, here is the command to open Firefox with profile manager and new instances: firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager %u

kevincox 4y ago
Yes, but with this UX it may as well not exist for 99% of users. Container tabs while still a little power-user is something that can be explained to the average user.
- anonymousab 4y ago
  One of the major problems with container tabs is that they share a lot of persistent state between them, such as browsing history. Profiles are mostly isolated by comparison.
commoner 4y ago
The Firefox Profile Switcher add-on provides an easy-to-use interface that looks just like Chrome's: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switcher/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/profile-switc... You'll need to install a connector for it to work. (The add-on gives instructions during the onboarding process.) Both the add-on and the connector are free and open source (GPLv3). I use profiles and containers together on Firefox. Each profile has its own set of add-ons, browser settings, and containers. Containers in the same profile share the same add-ons and browser settings. For example, you could have separate personal and work profiles, with containers for different online accounts in each profile. On Firefox, you have the option of using only profiles, only containers, both profiles and containers, or none of the above.
- chiefalchemist 4y ago
  I've been looking for something like that. Thanks. But ideally, I don't want to swithswitch profiles. I want to have muliple instances of FF open, each with a different profile. Just like Chromium based browsers and users. Anything for that?
  - commoner 4y ago
    When you choose a different profile in the Firefox Profile Switcher menu, it opens a new instance of Firefox with the new profile. The add-on experience will be very familiar if you've used Chromium's profile management features. If you're trying to create a shortcut to Firefox that launches a profile other than the one you've selected as the default, the instructions for Linux and Windows are here: https://kb.mozillazine.org/Shortcut_to_a_specific_profile https://kb.mozillazine.org/Shortcut_to_a_specific_profile This is not necessary to use the profile feature, but some people prefer to launch profiles from shortcuts instead of a menu.
  - fsflover 4y ago
    This is how I use Firefox; you need Qubes OS for that.
  - lukewiwa 4y ago
    go to about:profiles in the omnibar and you'll be able to open multiple profiles from there. You can also do other general management of profiles.
- cmg 4y ago
  I'm going to have to give this a try. I manage multiple Google Workspace accounts for clients and have stuck to Chrome for those as I have a profile set up for each account. Yes, you can log in to multiple Google accounts in any browser, but then it defaults to the first account for new windows. The two final things that would get me off Chrome entirely: * When I'm using my external USB microphone in a web-based conference system (mostly Cleanfeed but I've also seen it with Streamyard and Jitsi) my audio gets extremely robotic after a few minutes and it somehow impacts my entire system - I have to unplug the microphone to fix it. * Dropbox, for some reason, hangs at 1 second left when uploading larger files (appx 60MB or so)
jordemort 4y ago
I'm pretty sure the profile manager stuff in Firefox goes all the way back to the Netscape 4 days. If I recall correctly, back in the way back, it used to throw you into Profile Manager and walk you through creating your initial one on first launch of fresh installs. At some point they tucked that under the rug and just started creating the default profile automatically - maybe because it made less sense to ask for a bunch of personal information up-front when the browser was broken off from the mail client? Now most people have forgotten that Profile Manager even exists, but it's been there the whole time.
- johnny22 4y ago
  my parents rely on Profile Manager. I set that up for them years ago, since my mom uses my dad's computer a bit every day. She has no need for a whole user account. Separating the stuff in the browser is enough.

prox 4y ago

I hope you become a full time user, lets curb the direction Google wants to go in.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
Even if the entire HN community would switch to Firefox, it would still be a drop in the ocean to curbing Chrome's market share. Also Firefox hasn't been doing itself any favors by alienating both the average Joe consumers and the professional devs over the years.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  No it wouldn't, that's just pessimism. The entire HN community switching would have massive second-order effects. People would see experts (us) using it, we'd promote it and install it for people, we'd speak positively about it, we'd develop with it, etc. (I won't write the whole list.)
  - hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
    Not only that. Every few weeks I come across a site that works better in Chrome than in FF or has some quirks (Google's spreadsheets are a good example - they feel slower in FF). Although I have no hope of changing the mindset of HNers working at Google, the rest of us could make a difference.
    - dhimes 4y ago
      Yeah I hate that. I still have a problem seeing comments on youtube in firefox, even when I'm logged in. Not sure we're going to be able to fix if google targets their properties to only their browser, outside of a lawsuit or gov't action.
      - Kelm 4y ago
        I daily drive Firefox for a few years now, including watching youtube - never faced your issue… Maybe a misbehaving extension?