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>Automatic blocking of autoplay videos And then this very site has an automatic playing video in the article lmao Also a lot of these claims are so-so imo. "

>Automatic blocking of autoplay videos And then this very site has an automatic playing video in the article lmao Also a lot of these claims are so-so imo. "Lighter on system resources" "Speedier website browsing" I usually have 60-70 tabs open across 5-6 windows. Firefox absolutely shits itself all the time but Chromium doesn't. Anyways I use ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

formerly_proven 4y ago
> I usually have 60-70 tabs open across 5-6 windows. Firefox absolutely shits itself all the time but Chromium doesn't. Last time I checked I had a few thousand tabs open with Firefox and it doesn't do anything except use memory.
- barbs 4y ago
  A few thousand tabs?!?! Come on mate!
  - zelphirkalt 4y ago
    And why not? Since it works so well on Firefox, it seems like a valid thing to do. You can quickly jump to any opened tab using the % thing in the URL or, if you have tagged bookmarks open, you can search by tag. Basically opened tabs are like a huge brain cache layer of things you want to look at.
- 8organicbits 4y ago
  I'm always curious about the use case of having so many open tabs. Is there some context you work in where so many tabs are needed? Are you able to find already open tabs, or do you just end up with 50 hacker news tabs because you just open new ones? Do you actually look at each tab, or do you open in the background and never load them? Are you using extensions to make tabs management easier, like tree style tabs? Once I get past 40 or so I purge old tabs because it makes it hard to find others I'm actively using. Besides, opening a tab again isn't a huge burden.
  - csydas 4y ago
    I questioned it also but I guess tabs have become the replacement for bookmarks. AFAIk both chrome and Firefox have a search function specifically for open tabs so for some it's easier to track and store sites that way, especially since the browser can handle it well enough. It's not my preference as I like having a clean browser window; too many tabs is distracting and it's harder for me to contextualize what work I'm focusing on (windows + tabs for tasks is my preference), but I can see how it works for some.
  - prox 4y ago
    Yeah, using is 40 tabs is weird to me. Here is my strategy, just have current tabs open that are relevant for my computing session. When I need something else that I visited, I use the history shortcut, search for the word (usually its in the title) and I got the info I need. Same with bookmarks which I usually tag. So many tabs just seems redundant I feel.
  - pivo 4y ago
    > Are you able to find already open tabs Yes https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... This search also returns results for tabs open in Firefox on other devices. Opening the tab again isn't hard if you can remember what that tab was to begin with.
  - hombre_fatal 4y ago
    Tabs are just more concrete than bookmarks. Tabs aren't things I thought I would want to revisit in the future that I went out of my way to save to a list of such things that I will never visit again. Rather, tabs are even more useful than that: things I was actually doing adjacent to the thing I was doing right next to it. There's a spatial element to it. Nothing compares to tabs. Especially not browser history which is one long list of urls I once visited, who cares. Tabs are a list of urls I settled on.
    - formerly_proven 4y ago
      Yep, by using multiple windows (one per project/topic) I get a nice spatial relationship between tabs and they're just as easy to search as bookmarks.
- swfsql 4y ago
  I use an extension called autoTabDiscard (or something close) that unloads webpages that I didn't access the last 10 minutes, or that doesn't load any tab on startup, but the tabs keep existing in both cases. Then you can setup exceptions as well. That's an essential for me.
  - prox 4y ago
    But why open so many tabs when you can just search history or bookmark (in FF you can also tag by double clicking the star icon) Usually I find everything I needed by time, data, keyword, tag, or bookmark in a few seconds at most by opening history or bookmark by keyboard shortcut.
    - swfsql 4y ago
      In my case I think I got used to have specific ff windows for specific stuff, and having the tabs "opened" feels quicker for me. But I guess I could get used to and switch to tags and bookmarking as you said.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
  I have no problem in Firefox with dozens of tabs. Meanwhile my extensionless Chromium install will consume all memory if it is left open for a couple weeks with just two or three tabs.
- yuhojihugyiopu 4y ago
  Have over 2000 tabs as well, on an old Macbook Air. Have to turn off Firefox Fission though.
Jalad 4y ago
> "Speedier website browsing" I use Firefox on desktop and mobile, and I'd tend to agree with you. Sometimes I need to open up Chrome to test something and all of the pages load noticeably faster (things like FB messenger, Google search, etc.) It's a tradeoff I guess because the extensions on Firefox mobile are a killer feature.
perihelions 4y ago
- "And then this very site has an automatic playing video in the article lmao" Reminiscent of this classic: - "Among all the sites I visited, news sites, including The New York Times and The Washington Post, had the most tracking resources." https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/23/opinion/data-internet-privacy-tracking.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/23/opinion/data-...
tgv 4y ago
The video doesn't play when I open the page. Youtube doesn't autoplay either; the tab neatly says "auto-play blocked". Note that browsers permit playing a video upon any "user interaction", i.e. a key press or a click.
zelphirkalt 4y ago
yawn I am a declared tab horder, with 500+ tabs open and Firefox shows no sign of any slowdown. Try that with Chromium derivates. In my experience Firefox outclasses Chromium based browsers for such a workload.
- gurjeet 4y ago
  I'm way ahead of you there, and I'm _not_ proud of it. My 'Tab counter' add-on tells me: Tabs in this window: 3221 Tabs in all windows: 3301 (I think this is because of a bug) Number of windows: 6
pivo 4y ago
I rarely have fewer than double that number of tabs open in Firefox and never have crashes. Maybe it’s crashed on me in the past, but if so I don’t remember it happening.
alpaca128 4y ago
Meanwhile I usually have 1000-2000 tabs open in Firefox and it doesn't slow down at all, while Chrome made the whole system slow down to a concerning degree with less than 100 tabs.

formerly_proven 4y ago

> I usually have 60-70 tabs open across 5-6 windows. Firefox absolutely shits itself all the time but Chromium doesn't. Last time I checked I had a few thousand tabs open with Firefox and it doesn't do anything except use memory.

barbs 4y ago
A few thousand tabs?!?! Come on mate!
- zelphirkalt 4y ago
  And why not? Since it works so well on Firefox, it seems like a valid thing to do. You can quickly jump to any opened tab using the % thing in the URL or, if you have tagged bookmarks open, you can search by tag. Basically opened tabs are like a huge brain cache layer of things you want to look at.
8organicbits 4y ago
I'm always curious about the use case of having so many open tabs. Is there some context you work in where so many tabs are needed? Are you able to find already open tabs, or do you just end up with 50 hacker news tabs because you just open new ones? Do you actually look at each tab, or do you open in the background and never load them? Are you using extensions to make tabs management easier, like tree style tabs? Once I get past 40 or so I purge old tabs because it makes it hard to find others I'm actively using. Besides, opening a tab again isn't a huge burden.
- csydas 4y ago
  I questioned it also but I guess tabs have become the replacement for bookmarks. AFAIk both chrome and Firefox have a search function specifically for open tabs so for some it's easier to track and store sites that way, especially since the browser can handle it well enough. It's not my preference as I like having a clean browser window; too many tabs is distracting and it's harder for me to contextualize what work I'm focusing on (windows + tabs for tasks is my preference), but I can see how it works for some.
- prox 4y ago
  Yeah, using is 40 tabs is weird to me. Here is my strategy, just have current tabs open that are relevant for my computing session. When I need something else that I visited, I use the history shortcut, search for the word (usually its in the title) and I got the info I need. Same with bookmarks which I usually tag. So many tabs just seems redundant I feel.
- pivo 4y ago
  > Are you able to find already open tabs Yes https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefox https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/search-open-tabs-firefo... This search also returns results for tabs open in Firefox on other devices. Opening the tab again isn't hard if you can remember what that tab was to begin with.
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  Tabs are just more concrete than bookmarks. Tabs aren't things I thought I would want to revisit in the future that I went out of my way to save to a list of such things that I will never visit again. Rather, tabs are even more useful than that: things I was actually doing adjacent to the thing I was doing right next to it. There's a spatial element to it. Nothing compares to tabs. Especially not browser history which is one long list of urls I once visited, who cares. Tabs are a list of urls I settled on.
  - formerly_proven 4y ago
    Yep, by using multiple windows (one per project/topic) I get a nice spatial relationship between tabs and they're just as easy to search as bookmarks.
swfsql 4y ago
I use an extension called autoTabDiscard (or something close) that unloads webpages that I didn't access the last 10 minutes, or that doesn't load any tab on startup, but the tabs keep existing in both cases. Then you can setup exceptions as well. That's an essential for me.
- prox 4y ago
  But why open so many tabs when you can just search history or bookmark (in FF you can also tag by double clicking the star icon) Usually I find everything I needed by time, data, keyword, tag, or bookmark in a few seconds at most by opening history or bookmark by keyboard shortcut.
  - swfsql 4y ago
    In my case I think I got used to have specific ff windows for specific stuff, and having the tabs "opened" feels quicker for me. But I guess I could get used to and switch to tags and bookmarking as you said.
kevin_thibedeau 4y ago
I have no problem in Firefox with dozens of tabs. Meanwhile my extensionless Chromium install will consume all memory if it is left open for a couple weeks with just two or three tabs.
yuhojihugyiopu 4y ago
Have over 2000 tabs as well, on an old Macbook Air. Have to turn off Firefox Fission though.

Jalad 4y ago

> "Speedier website browsing" I use Firefox on desktop and mobile, and I'd tend to agree with you. Sometimes I need to open up Chrome to test something and all of the pages load noticeably faster (things like FB messenger, Google search, etc.) It's a tradeoff I guess because the extensions on Firefox mobile are a killer feature.

perihelions 4y ago

- "And then this very site has an automatic playing video in the article lmao" Reminiscent of this classic: - "Among all the sites I visited, news sites, including The New York Times and The Washington Post, had the most tracking resources." https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/23/opinion/data-internet-privacy-tracking.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/23/opinion/data-...

tgv 4y ago

The video doesn't play when I open the page. Youtube doesn't autoplay either; the tab neatly says "auto-play blocked". Note that browsers permit playing a video upon any "user interaction", i.e. a key press or a click.

zelphirkalt 4y ago

yawn I am a declared tab horder, with 500+ tabs open and Firefox shows no sign of any slowdown. Try that with Chromium derivates. In my experience Firefox outclasses Chromium based browsers for such a workload.

gurjeet 4y ago
I'm way ahead of you there, and I'm _not_ proud of it. My 'Tab counter' add-on tells me: Tabs in this window: 3221 Tabs in all windows: 3301 (I think this is because of a bug) Number of windows: 6

pivo 4y ago

I rarely have fewer than double that number of tabs open in Firefox and never have crashes. Maybe it’s crashed on me in the past, but if so I don’t remember it happening.

alpaca128 4y ago

Meanwhile I usually have 1000-2000 tabs open in Firefox and it doesn't slow down at all, while Chrome made the whole system slow down to a concerning degree with less than 100 tabs.