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No he called you a lying fuck because he thinks you're not being honest. I don't think you're lying. But most definitely what he says about liberal democrats i

No he called you a lying fuck because he thinks you're not being honest. I don't think you're lying. But most definitely what he says about liberal democrats is true. https://youtu.be/hNDgcjVGHIw https://youtu.be/hNDgcjVGHIw Attacking conservatives was just poor taste and off topic. The reaction you got was well deserved because you tried to give something neutral a political bent.

themitigating 4y ago
1. First rule of comments on Hackernews is "be kind". My statement didn't attack any single user on this site. If the user disagreed with me he can simply state that with a counter argument. 2. Conservative pundits have made remarks implying politics/a political party are to blame. I don't think it's politically neutral and that's what I was commenting on. Examples below where the population decline is discussed. Foxnews - segment on the crime issues and the population decline. Saying that "a rare breed, a Republican" ... "community activist is trying to save his city". Then when talking about the DA and a recall "..who is the notoriously soft on crime DA in San Francisco". [1] Washington Times - "In recent years, more people have left California for other states than have moved there, a trend Republicans say is a result of the state’s high taxes and progressive politics" [2] Newsmax - [Headline]"DeSantis Concerned About California Exodus; Calls San Francisco 'Dumpster Fire'" (Desantis quote's are the main portion of the article) It's like the leftism, they will not draw the connection between their leftist ideology and the destruction that's all around them,"" [1]https://video.foxnews.com/v/6305307974112#sp=show-clips https://video.foxnews.com/v/6305307974112#sp=show-clips [2]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/7/california-population-declines-first-time/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/7/california-p... [3]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/desantis-california-exodus-san-francisco/2022/04/26/id/1067296/ https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/desantis-california-exodus...
- deltaonefour 4y ago
  It is an attack. It's blaming a situation based off of someones politics. People are conservatives too and when they are talked about like that, they feel blamed or almost like they're being observed like creatures in a zoo. The person who responded to you interpreted that way and to me it also reads that way. Simply bringing up politics is often an attack and depending on the context it may be relevant, but in this case I don't see any relevancy. Lots of people hate SF who lived there and this is independent of the media. Even Fox news doesn't always report lies. Sure they have strong bias and tend to twist reality and exaggerate situations but their objective is political, not to simply just "lie." If a story aligns with their politics then when they report it, it's basically reporting the truth. In this case the whole communism thing is an exaggeration, but it is an aspect of the truth that lots of people hate SF. There's just no need bring up Fox or the conservative media here. Better to offer your opinion on the matter because a good number of people who hate SF are actually liberal and moderate as well.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    In my opinion some conservative pundants hate sf not because of the conditions but because of who runs the government and who lives there And I think bringing up Foxnews is worth it because they push a narrative about issues in California less on numbers and more on emotion. They repeat the same accussations or statements without data so often people take it as fact now. For example "California is a failed state "

themitigating 4y ago

1. First rule of comments on Hackernews is "be kind". My statement didn't attack any single user on this site. If the user disagreed with me he can simply state that with a counter argument. 2. Conservative pundits have made remarks implying politics/a political party are to blame. I don't think it's politically neutral and that's what I was commenting on. Examples below where the population decline is discussed. Foxnews - segment on the crime issues and the population decline. Saying that "a rare breed, a Republican" ... "community activist is trying to save his city". Then when talking about the DA and a recall "..who is the notoriously soft on crime DA in San Francisco". [1] Washington Times - "In recent years, more people have left California for other states than have moved there, a trend Republicans say is a result of the state’s high taxes and progressive politics" [2] Newsmax - [Headline]"DeSantis Concerned About California Exodus; Calls San Francisco 'Dumpster Fire'" (Desantis quote's are the main portion of the article) It's like the leftism, they will not draw the connection between their leftist ideology and the destruction that's all around them,"" [1]https://video.foxnews.com/v/6305307974112#sp=show-clips https://video.foxnews.com/v/6305307974112#sp=show-clips [2]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/7/california-population-declines-first-time/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/7/california-p... [3]https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/desantis-california-exodus-san-francisco/2022/04/26/id/1067296/ https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/desantis-california-exodus...

deltaonefour 4y ago
It is an attack. It's blaming a situation based off of someones politics. People are conservatives too and when they are talked about like that, they feel blamed or almost like they're being observed like creatures in a zoo. The person who responded to you interpreted that way and to me it also reads that way. Simply bringing up politics is often an attack and depending on the context it may be relevant, but in this case I don't see any relevancy. Lots of people hate SF who lived there and this is independent of the media. Even Fox news doesn't always report lies. Sure they have strong bias and tend to twist reality and exaggerate situations but their objective is political, not to simply just "lie." If a story aligns with their politics then when they report it, it's basically reporting the truth. In this case the whole communism thing is an exaggeration, but it is an aspect of the truth that lots of people hate SF. There's just no need bring up Fox or the conservative media here. Better to offer your opinion on the matter because a good number of people who hate SF are actually liberal and moderate as well.
- themitigating 4y ago
  In my opinion some conservative pundants hate sf not because of the conditions but because of who runs the government and who lives there And I think bringing up Foxnews is worth it because they push a narrative about issues in California less on numbers and more on emotion. They repeat the same accussations or statements without data so often people take it as fact now. For example "California is a failed state "