This is really not the case in France, for example. When all not-fancy houses around (in a not-so-fancy Paris suburb - well you want to stay close to a job mar

This is really not the case in France, for example. When all not-fancy houses around (in a not-so-fancy Paris suburb - well you want to stay close to a job market... - and you need to be close to public transportation 'cause hey you don't want to use a car, save the planet right?) start at 450/500kEUR (with work to do on it!) and you're making 40kEUR a year as a sw engineer, and still have to pay rent in the meantime because you're not getting a 30 year loan for >50% of your salary without some kind of down-payment you're gonna have to work 10y to gather... Meh I get it. The housing market is just stupid. And I'm sure some happy people find nice jobs and houses not not around Paris, but I also see how economic downturns made peers redundant and... Well not many possibilities when away from the main job market. Yeah you're still better than your uber or lower paid peers, but what are you doing working 50+hours a week for that?