>It does not seem like guns prevent crime really. >If that was the case, then states with the most guns would have the least gun deaths, no? gun deaths != cri

>It does not seem like guns prevent crime really. >If that was the case, then states with the most guns would have the least gun deaths, no? gun deaths != crime The statistics you cite include suicide as "gun deaths", which is typically not a crime in the US when it is unassisted. Therefore you would have to remove suicide and other non-criminal (such as self defense) actions from "gun deaths" to make your claim.