Completely agree. It's the mindless nature that's the red flag here. I met a guy who came across as quite fluent in these meetings but quickly you would realis

Completely agree. It's the mindless nature that's the red flag here. I met a guy who came across as quite fluent in these meetings but quickly you would realise he didn't know what any of it meant - it was like the Chinese Room. With that little connection with anything it was impossible for people to pick up basic errors, it was just rote learning and soon it spread to others; no one was equipped to make sensible suggestions as they couldn't see the big picture and didn't really know what the things they did were actually for let alone the "why" ("Oh, so we're building a ship... to float on the water? Thanks!", turns back to keyboard, resumes vacant look)