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I think the article touched in it, but from my group of friends, the main theme is this. We’re working just as hard as our parents, and particularly the older c

I think the article touched in it, but from my group of friends, the main theme is this. We’re working just as hard as our parents, and particularly the older colleagues in our offices, but not receiving the same rewards in regards to life milestones like getting a ‘nice’ car, moving out, or even owning a house, which further delays other milestones like putting down roots and starting families, leading to an ongoing sense of futility. The feeling is ‘why bother working 50 hour weeks in a stressful profession if I’m going to be in roughly the same position as working 20 hours at a book shop and getting to spend more time with my friends’, and this is something I relate to as well even on the more successful end of the young person with job spectrum. It does feel a bit pointless doing all this. My savings and money are just as useless as nit having them when a house I could live in is 20x a bookshop salary and 12x my salary, they’re both not cutting it so why bother? Anyway, that’s where this feeling is coming from in my group, and is something I’m still trying to find a solution for in my setting.

gedy 4y ago
I think this all comes to rent being too high. If you could move out after college in a decent/cool place with no roommates (unless you want them), people would feel like they have accomplished an important step.
gruez 4y ago
>if I’m going to be in roughly the same position as working 20 hours at a book shop and getting to spend more time with my friends’ Is this actually true? It's hard to believe that you'll "be in roughly the same position" earning $34k/year as earning $80k/year. Is the thinking that "if I can't buy a house then there's no point in saving/earning any money"?
- netizen-936824 4y ago
  The top comment doesn't mention salaries, so I don't know where you're getting those numbers from
  - gruez 4y ago
    They did mention "20 hours at a book shop" and "a stressful profession". 20 hours at a book shop earning $17/hr works out to $17k/year (in my original comment I miscalculated and didn't factor in the reduced hours and got $34k). $80k is my estimate for how much "a stressful profession" (eg. finance, consulting) pays.

gedy 4y ago

I think this all comes to rent being too high. If you could move out after college in a decent/cool place with no roommates (unless you want them), people would feel like they have accomplished an important step.

gruez 4y ago

>if I’m going to be in roughly the same position as working 20 hours at a book shop and getting to spend more time with my friends’ Is this actually true? It's hard to believe that you'll "be in roughly the same position" earning $34k/year as earning $80k/year. Is the thinking that "if I can't buy a house then there's no point in saving/earning any money"?

netizen-936824 4y ago
The top comment doesn't mention salaries, so I don't know where you're getting those numbers from
- gruez 4y ago
  They did mention "20 hours at a book shop" and "a stressful profession". 20 hours at a book shop earning $17/hr works out to $17k/year (in my original comment I miscalculated and didn't factor in the reduced hours and got $34k). $80k is my estimate for how much "a stressful profession" (eg. finance, consulting) pays.