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> To each their own, but I think it's important for people to get out of their headspace and see things from a more general perspective as well. What makes you

> To each their own, but I think it's important for people to get out of their headspace and see things from a more general perspective as well. What makes you think those of us who enjoy living in the area haven't made the conscious choice? There are good reasons I chose to live in the urban parts of the SFBA, just like I presume there are good reasons several of my friends are happily running a household in Seattle, Austin, Chicago, Brooklyn, Columbus, or pretty much any other part of the US.

deltaonefour 4y ago
Many haven't... I've literally met people who claim they haven't seen any human feces in San Francisco or drug users and homeless people everywhere. Then there's people like you who prefer the fair and balanced look. Like San Francisco is a city that has some problems just like any other city. Are there really, truly any factually bad places to live in the world? Or is everything just a matter of opinion? Nothing is bad or good it's what each individual makes of it. When is it that enough people believe in something that it's no longer an opinion but a fact? Some people may enjoy being punched in the face but enough people hate being punched in the face that this situation is considered to be factually just a shitty situation to be in, completely independent of opinion. I'm saying enough people are talking shit about SF that SF is pretty much in the zone of being factually categorized as a shitty place to live. If it's not there yet, it's close enough where people need to acknowledge some big problems here that no other 1st world city has.