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In every new team, on first retrospective I test it with a simple: let's get rid of retrospectives (followed by: let's not make demos). If it passes the manager
by krzyk 4y ago
In every new team, on first retrospective I test it with a simple: let's get rid of retrospectives (followed by: let's not make demos). If it passes the manager, this is a true retro - never happened.
- jpswade 4y agoThis seems obnoxious and anarchical, which in a new team probably won’t fly. People don’t like to be tested in this way. I’d probably reevaluate what it is you’re trying to achieve from a retrospective and listen to the team.
- xcambar 4y agoAs a manager, I’d just think you’re being provocative and short-sighted. As an IC, I’d think you’re big-mouthed, in a bad way. In any case, even if you were right, I’d be the kind of colleague you’d have to work your way up to retrieve trust after such a stunt.
- krzyk 4y agoReally, a stunt? If I can't change such things what can I change in a retro? It is usually either patting on the back or complaining on things that don't change.(late requirements, we forgot about one more dependency etc.) None of the negative things I have seen on retros in the last 10 years did get changed. So now I see it as a pointless meeting that takes away time to do coding. Fortunately. With all the WFH in the last 2 years I don't need to really listen to it.
- xcambar 4y ago> In every new team, on first retrospective I test it with a simple: let's get rid of retrospectives Trying to get rid of something, in any new context, at first encounter is sending the signal that you think you know better without actually even willing to see for yourself in said new context. That's why I used the term "stunt". Do the same thing after a quarter, where you have gained knowledge, experience and feedback, and I'd happily use a much more appreciative term :)
- iostream24 4y agoWhat is an IC?
- andrekandre 4y agoindividual contributor (i think)
- xcambar 4y agoExactly.
- icedchai 4y agoHah! I wish someone like you had been on my last team. I was always thinking this exact thing. Unfortunately, the last manager was a true agile professional, and would keep the Zoom call running until we all contributed something to the "retrospective document" that got shared out.
- HowTheStoryEnds 4y agoN Times 'well: great atmosphere and colleagues; no minus points'