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> I think the real issue here is a double parked garbage truck forcing the fire truck to go into oncoming traffic in the first place. Maybe there's a need for a

> I think the real issue here is a double parked garbage truck forcing the fire truck to go into oncoming traffic in the first place. Maybe there's a need for a loading only zone there so that the garbage truck doesn't have to block the travel lane. I disagree. Driverless vehicles NEED to be able to handle these unexpected situations in an appropriate manner. That they don't currently is in fact a "real issue" and in this case at least is evidence this tech may not be ready for primetime.

flutas 4y ago
> Driverless vehicles NEED to be able to handle these unexpected situations in an appropriate manner. That they don't currently is in fact a "real issue" and in this case at least is evidence this tech may not be ready for primetime. Personal opinion here, but I think defaulting to "stop and contact support staff" is as good of a "fix" as we will have for a long time. According to Cruise (so potentially biased) it took 25s for the firetruck to be able to move after the scenario was encountered, though the article says the garbage truck moved.
- Volundr 4y ago
  > Personal opinion here, but I think defaulting to "stop and contact support staff" is as good of a "fix" as we will have for a long time. I both agree, and see this as yet another reason driverless cars are on the road WAY too early.
  - tadfisher 4y ago
    Then there will never be driverless cars on the road, because that's kind of a requirement to gather knowledge to build capable driverless vehicles.
    - Volundr 4y ago
      This outcome is acceptable to me, though I doubt the assertion. I don't think we are good enough at AI yet to put cars on the road with any amount of data. When we are I think we'll be capable of training them without having to put vehicles with dangerous behaviors on the road to gather data.
  - sroussey 4y ago
    I mean, not backing up into cross traffic at the intersection is also a good thing. I’ve seen accidents where cars got out of the way of an emergency vehicle only to crash into another.
    - Volundr 4y ago
      Sure, but did this car have traffic or an intersection behind it? If so it's a non-story. Given the double parked garbage truck I think it's safe to say they weren't near an intersection, so cross traffic is unlikely. The car should have been able to look behind it, see the clear path, and move out of the way. Heck the whole supposed advantage of self-driving is it can watch in all directions at once.

flutas 4y ago

> Driverless vehicles NEED to be able to handle these unexpected situations in an appropriate manner. That they don't currently is in fact a "real issue" and in this case at least is evidence this tech may not be ready for primetime. Personal opinion here, but I think defaulting to "stop and contact support staff" is as good of a "fix" as we will have for a long time. According to Cruise (so potentially biased) it took 25s for the firetruck to be able to move after the scenario was encountered, though the article says the garbage truck moved.

Volundr 4y ago
> Personal opinion here, but I think defaulting to "stop and contact support staff" is as good of a "fix" as we will have for a long time. I both agree, and see this as yet another reason driverless cars are on the road WAY too early.
- tadfisher 4y ago
  Then there will never be driverless cars on the road, because that's kind of a requirement to gather knowledge to build capable driverless vehicles.
  - Volundr 4y ago
    This outcome is acceptable to me, though I doubt the assertion. I don't think we are good enough at AI yet to put cars on the road with any amount of data. When we are I think we'll be capable of training them without having to put vehicles with dangerous behaviors on the road to gather data.
- sroussey 4y ago
  I mean, not backing up into cross traffic at the intersection is also a good thing. I’ve seen accidents where cars got out of the way of an emergency vehicle only to crash into another.
  - Volundr 4y ago
    Sure, but did this car have traffic or an intersection behind it? If so it's a non-story. Given the double parked garbage truck I think it's safe to say they weren't near an intersection, so cross traffic is unlikely. The car should have been able to look behind it, see the clear path, and move out of the way. Heck the whole supposed advantage of self-driving is it can watch in all directions at once.