I agree that some dealers are pretty shady. Some are great. Knowing in advance which one you're dealing with is close to impossible. I don't set foot in a de

I agree that some dealers are pretty shady. Some are great. Knowing in advance which one you're dealing with is close to impossible. I don't set foot in a dealer any more without working the deal first by e-mail. Then I bring in the purchase contract and pick up the car. No last minute fun surprises. I've also had fairly good success looking the finance manager in the eye and telling them point blank I will only be wasting their time by repeating 'no' if they insist on asking questions, just give me the final paper to sign and the keys to the car. "I will be modding it, I care not about your extended warranty, kthxbye"