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I do value the teaching profession, I wish the pay was better. Despite the current events, I do not think they need more protection. I am in favor of gun contro

I do value the teaching profession, I wish the pay was better. Despite the current events, I do not think they need more protection. I am in favor of gun control and I am in no way saying there are not issues. If you look up professions with the highest death rates. Teacher's are fairly low on the list, if they show up at all. https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/15-professions-with-the-highest-death-rates-in-the-us-618867/?singlepage=1 https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/15-professions-with-the-h...

wnolens 4y ago
The collective trauma to kids in the USA who don't feel safe at school is heart-breaking. Trauma doesn't evaporate, it warps you. Especially at that age. The statistics of it being improbable to die at school are no salve.
nsriv 4y ago
Appreciate your wishes for better pay and stance on gun control. One of the subjects I teach is stats, and I wish I could draw comfort from that statistic myself.
dane-pgp 4y ago
For comparison, the Washington Post[0] says: "The Education Department reports that roughly 50 million children attend public schools for roughly 180 days per year. ... That means the statistical likelihood of any given public school student being killed by a gun, in school, on any given day since 1999 was roughly 1 in 614,000,000." So in a given (180 day) year, such a child has a 1 in 3.4 million chance of dying, which means the equivalent annual death rate out of 100,000 children is 0.029 children. The article you link to says that the annual death rate per 100,000 "Police and sheriff’s patrol officers" is 14.6 which is a few orders of magnitudes bigger, although children don't have as much control over whether they go to public schools as cops have over which job they do. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/school-shootings-are-extraordinarily-rare-why-is-fear-of-them-driving-policy/2018/03/08/f4ead9f2-2247-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/school-shootings-are-...
- SapporoChris 4y ago
  You appear to be conflating children with teachers. I was commenting on teacher risk, and linked deaths by profession. What you responded with was children, which are not teachers, or even a profession.
  - dane-pgp 4y ago
    Forgive me if my statistic caused the topic to stray away from the issue of teacher safety. The recent tragedy in Uvalde did involve the deaths of more students than teachers, which I assume is typical for such events, but on the other hand there are probably more teachers than school students leaving comments on this topic, so you're right, it may be better to limit consideration to just professions for now.

wnolens 4y ago

The collective trauma to kids in the USA who don't feel safe at school is heart-breaking. Trauma doesn't evaporate, it warps you. Especially at that age. The statistics of it being improbable to die at school are no salve.

nsriv 4y ago

Appreciate your wishes for better pay and stance on gun control. One of the subjects I teach is stats, and I wish I could draw comfort from that statistic myself.

dane-pgp 4y ago

For comparison, the Washington Post[0] says: "The Education Department reports that roughly 50 million children attend public schools for roughly 180 days per year. ... That means the statistical likelihood of any given public school student being killed by a gun, in school, on any given day since 1999 was roughly 1 in 614,000,000." So in a given (180 day) year, such a child has a 1 in 3.4 million chance of dying, which means the equivalent annual death rate out of 100,000 children is 0.029 children. The article you link to says that the annual death rate per 100,000 "Police and sheriff’s patrol officers" is 14.6 which is a few orders of magnitudes bigger, although children don't have as much control over whether they go to public schools as cops have over which job they do. [0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/school-shootings-are-extraordinarily-rare-why-is-fear-of-them-driving-policy/2018/03/08/f4ead9f2-2247-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/school-shootings-are-...

SapporoChris 4y ago
You appear to be conflating children with teachers. I was commenting on teacher risk, and linked deaths by profession. What you responded with was children, which are not teachers, or even a profession.
- dane-pgp 4y ago
  Forgive me if my statistic caused the topic to stray away from the issue of teacher safety. The recent tragedy in Uvalde did involve the deaths of more students than teachers, which I assume is typical for such events, but on the other hand there are probably more teachers than school students leaving comments on this topic, so you're right, it may be better to limit consideration to just professions for now.