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Then you can look at the excess deaths statistics from the time the pandemic started, but before vaccines became available. It paints a similar picture. A lot

by addled 4y ago

Then you can look at the excess deaths statistics from the time the pandemic started, but before vaccines became available. It paints a similar picture. A lot more people "than usual" dying in 2020 (before vaccines in US).

forcejdhdk 4y ago
And that could have nothing to do at all with the more deadly alpha and delta strains that are now extinct?
- mrtesthah 4y ago
  "Omicron Deaths in U.S. Exceed Delta’s Peak as Covid-19 Optimism Rises in Europe" https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron-deaths-in-u-s-exceed-deltas-peak-as-covid-19-optimism-rises-in-europe-11643201653 https://www.wsj.com/articles/omicron-deaths-in-u-s-exceed-de...
  - moistly 4y ago
    Omicron is less deadly on an individual basis by, IIRC, about 60%; it causes more deaths on a population basis because it infects vastly more people.
    - mrtesthah 4y ago
      Sure, but in the context of where excess deaths come from, it's the total number of deaths we're interested in.