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> It is uniquely evolved to target and damage the vascular system in the body. There is so much panic, hysteria and just mythos around covid that I have a hard

> It is uniquely evolved to target and damage the vascular system in the body. There is so much panic, hysteria and just mythos around covid that I have a hard time believing this. Calling this thing "novel" gave some of these experts a hell of a lot of artistic liberty in how they describe covid. > And people ARE tracking things like flu vs. COVID statistics. So far COVID-19 is roughly 10x as deadly as a bad flu year. Ten times... I'm still not fully convinced that due to the massive amount of surveillance we've built around covid, it is even fair to compare the IFR of the flu vs. covid. We've never measured the progress of any virus to this degree. If we tracked the flu the same way we tracked covid, what kinds of numbers would we be getting for that virus? We have a massive river of data coming in for covid. Vastly more data about it than any other virus in human history. I don't think anybody knows how to process all of it in a way that lets us meaningfully compare it to anything prior.

qbasic_forever 4y ago
First you say "we should compare COVID to the flu" and now you say "look there's no way you can compare COVID to the flu". And then top it all off with the classic, "well you just can't trust any science in the last two years". You clearly are not arguing in good faith or of sound mind.
- spookthesunset 4y ago
  People in my area completely lost their minds. Like it was as if somebody cracked open their head and ran a stick blender up there. Some of the smartest people I knew bought so deeply into this stuff that when they'd harass me and call me a "grandma killer", it was basically word salad coming out of their mouth. It was nuts! Of course I'm calling in suspect pretty much every bit of research conducted over the last two years. Nobody had a level head, myself included. It will be at least a decade before things cool down enough to actually look objectively at covid and our mitigations. And I strongly suspect when it is objectively looked at, it will be regarded as one of the worst public health fuckups in human history. Mass hysteria at a level never before possible.
  - qbasic_forever 4y ago
    What if they're the rational ones are you are being irrational? Wouldn't you have the same perception?
    - spookthesunset 4y ago
      We triply live in a post fact world. You can find “facts” and dismiss inconvenient “facts” in order to support whatever you happen believe. In fact you can even find a nice comfy echo chamber to keep you immersed in whatever you believe. However in this case, I am pretty damn sure history will be on my side. Absolutely none of what we did over the last two years made a lick of sense. It is the first real mass hysteria of the internet age.

qbasic_forever 4y ago

First you say "we should compare COVID to the flu" and now you say "look there's no way you can compare COVID to the flu". And then top it all off with the classic, "well you just can't trust any science in the last two years". You clearly are not arguing in good faith or of sound mind.

spookthesunset 4y ago
People in my area completely lost their minds. Like it was as if somebody cracked open their head and ran a stick blender up there. Some of the smartest people I knew bought so deeply into this stuff that when they'd harass me and call me a "grandma killer", it was basically word salad coming out of their mouth. It was nuts! Of course I'm calling in suspect pretty much every bit of research conducted over the last two years. Nobody had a level head, myself included. It will be at least a decade before things cool down enough to actually look objectively at covid and our mitigations. And I strongly suspect when it is objectively looked at, it will be regarded as one of the worst public health fuckups in human history. Mass hysteria at a level never before possible.
- qbasic_forever 4y ago
  What if they're the rational ones are you are being irrational? Wouldn't you have the same perception?
  - spookthesunset 4y ago
    We triply live in a post fact world. You can find “facts” and dismiss inconvenient “facts” in order to support whatever you happen believe. In fact you can even find a nice comfy echo chamber to keep you immersed in whatever you believe. However in this case, I am pretty damn sure history will be on my side. Absolutely none of what we did over the last two years made a lick of sense. It is the first real mass hysteria of the internet age.