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I don't its not so much, these students are the elite of elite from around the world (academically). How hard can you make something before it starts to become

I don't its not so much, these students are the elite of elite from around the world (academically). How hard can you make something before it starts to become contradictory to actual learning.

blagie 4y ago
There are two types of students at Harvard: - The elite of the elite, intellectually - The elite of the elite, socially A bit over 40% of white kids admitted to Harvard are ALDC admits: legacy, donors, etc. Folks like George W Bush (Yale) look smart by association with the intellectual elite, while smart kids gain access to networks to money and power. It's a good scheme for everyone involved. (Note: I do have a lot of insider knowledge about Harvard, specifically, but I'm only citing public information)
- finolex1 4y ago
  The 40% number can be a bit misleading because most are not George Bush types. In the 21st century, they mostly tend to be smart and ambitious students who are children of Ivy league educated professionals. These kids have been raised in an environment that prioritizes achievement and professional success. Source: Anecdotal experience from the legacies I met during college. I don't have hard numbers to back me up, but you can look at the 25th percentile SAT scores and they aren't too low.
  - colinmhayes 4y ago
    > ambitious students who are children of Ivy league educated professionals This describes Bush to a t. I left out the smart part, but I'm not convinced that W is some sort of idiot.
    - spacemanmatt 4y ago
      > I'm not convinced that W is some sort of idiot. His Presidency took care of that for me
      - blagie 4y ago
        Having worked with people in positions high positions, it's very hard to tell: - an idiot from someone pretending to be an idiot (e.g. for likeability) - someone smart from someone pretending to be smart, by virtue of a high-performance team behind them prepping them It's showbiz.
        spacemanmatt 4y ago
        He was on display for 8 years. Some truth leaked out.

I don't its not so much, these students are the elite of elite from around the world (academically). How hard can you make something before it starts to become contradictory to actual learning.

blagie 4y ago

There are two types of students at Harvard: - The elite of the elite, intellectually - The elite of the elite, socially A bit over 40% of white kids admitted to Harvard are ALDC admits: legacy, donors, etc. Folks like George W Bush (Yale) look smart by association with the intellectual elite, while smart kids gain access to networks to money and power. It's a good scheme for everyone involved. (Note: I do have a lot of insider knowledge about Harvard, specifically, but I'm only citing public information)

finolex1 4y ago
The 40% number can be a bit misleading because most are not George Bush types. In the 21st century, they mostly tend to be smart and ambitious students who are children of Ivy league educated professionals. These kids have been raised in an environment that prioritizes achievement and professional success. Source: Anecdotal experience from the legacies I met during college. I don't have hard numbers to back me up, but you can look at the 25th percentile SAT scores and they aren't too low.
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  > ambitious students who are children of Ivy league educated professionals This describes Bush to a t. I left out the smart part, but I'm not convinced that W is some sort of idiot.
  - spacemanmatt 4y ago
    > I'm not convinced that W is some sort of idiot. His Presidency took care of that for me
    - blagie 4y ago
      Having worked with people in positions high positions, it's very hard to tell: - an idiot from someone pretending to be an idiot (e.g. for likeability) - someone smart from someone pretending to be smart, by virtue of a high-performance team behind them prepping them It's showbiz.
      - spacemanmatt 4y ago
        He was on display for 8 years. Some truth leaked out.