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The Aptera is going to be pretty cheap compared to other EV manufacturers in the US. https://aptera.us/ https://aptera.us/ https://www.youtube.com/c/ApteraMot

The Aptera is going to be pretty cheap compared to other EV manufacturers in the US. https://aptera.us/ https://aptera.us/ https://www.youtube.com/c/ApteraMotors https://www.youtube.com/c/ApteraMotors

floxy 4y ago
This looks awesome, and almost sounds too good to be true. Certainly I'll be investigating this one some more. I wonder what the expected lead time is for a pre-order? (and what the actual lead time might be). Couldn't quite tell from a quick glance if any have been delivered and what their run-rate is. Anyone know if it would qualify for the $7,500 federal tax credit? https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml
- dubswithus 4y ago
  If you order now it probably won't be delivered until late 2023 at the earliest IMO. They hope to be in production later this year. I don't think it will qualify unless they are successful with lobbying the government.
- istillwritecode 4y ago
  I placed an order for an Aptera around 2008, but they never delivered and eventually refunded my $500 deposit in 2010. Rumor had it that they couldn't produce the body shell. After the Aptera debacle, I ordered one of the very first Nissan Leafs instead. I kept it for 8 years (about 60K miles) but ended up selling it when the range had dropped to around 50 miles. The 2011 Nissan Leaf had the worst depreciation of any car produced in 2011. I no longer own an electric car (but I'm no longer commuting).
  - floxy 4y ago
    Thanks for the first-hand insight into Aptera. Sounds like vapor-ware. For the Nissan Leaf, looks like the depreciation is still the worst, at least according to: https://caredge.com/ranks/depreciation/popular/5-year/worst#models https://caredge.com/ranks/depreciation/popular/5-year/worst#... ...would you say the depreciation was justified? Maybe mostly because of the battery range reduction? Did it start to need repairs or were other things generally wearing out? Other maintenance higher than expected? Do you think the $7,500 tax credit for new Leafs (Leaves?) is/was playing a part in suppressing costs for used Leafs? (as in, why by a used one, when you can get a new one with a $7,500 discount). I guess probably not, since that list isn't dominated by the other EV's eligible for the tax incentive. What was the range when it was new? I see this site says it was ~100 miles: https://www.cars.com/research/nissan-leaf-2011/ https://www.cars.com/research/nissan-leaf-2011/

floxy 4y ago

This looks awesome, and almost sounds too good to be true. Certainly I'll be investigating this one some more. I wonder what the expected lead time is for a pre-order? (and what the actual lead time might be). Couldn't quite tell from a quick glance if any have been delivered and what their run-rate is. Anyone know if it would qualify for the $7,500 federal tax credit? https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml https://fueleconomy.gov/feg/taxevb.shtml

dubswithus 4y ago
If you order now it probably won't be delivered until late 2023 at the earliest IMO. They hope to be in production later this year. I don't think it will qualify unless they are successful with lobbying the government.
istillwritecode 4y ago
I placed an order for an Aptera around 2008, but they never delivered and eventually refunded my $500 deposit in 2010. Rumor had it that they couldn't produce the body shell. After the Aptera debacle, I ordered one of the very first Nissan Leafs instead. I kept it for 8 years (about 60K miles) but ended up selling it when the range had dropped to around 50 miles. The 2011 Nissan Leaf had the worst depreciation of any car produced in 2011. I no longer own an electric car (but I'm no longer commuting).
- floxy 4y ago
  Thanks for the first-hand insight into Aptera. Sounds like vapor-ware. For the Nissan Leaf, looks like the depreciation is still the worst, at least according to: https://caredge.com/ranks/depreciation/popular/5-year/worst#models https://caredge.com/ranks/depreciation/popular/5-year/worst#... ...would you say the depreciation was justified? Maybe mostly because of the battery range reduction? Did it start to need repairs or were other things generally wearing out? Other maintenance higher than expected? Do you think the $7,500 tax credit for new Leafs (Leaves?) is/was playing a part in suppressing costs for used Leafs? (as in, why by a used one, when you can get a new one with a $7,500 discount). I guess probably not, since that list isn't dominated by the other EV's eligible for the tax incentive. What was the range when it was new? I see this site says it was ~100 miles: https://www.cars.com/research/nissan-leaf-2011/ https://www.cars.com/research/nissan-leaf-2011/