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ColinWright 4y ago
Great if all you want to read is the initial thread, but if you're interested in any of the discussion, that doesn't really help.
- meragrin_ 4y ago
  What good is the discussion if you don't fully read the initial thread? That graph makes it really difficult to do.
  - ColinWright 4y ago
    You can read the initial thread just by opening the chart and scrolling down ... the initial thread is there down the left side. But, you know, whatever works for you.
    - Noumenon72 4y ago
      Just reporting my experience like a focus group user: I opened the chart and thought "I am supposed to look at the thing on the screen". It was a reply out of context so it didn't make sense. I didn't consider clicking through because there is not an affordability of clicking like an arrow or a URL. I didn't scroll around because the thing I saw didn't grab my interest. I saw your other post and scrolled down to the top tweet on the left. I looked to the immediate right for the self-reply to the top tweet. It wasn't there, so I gave up. I didn't notice the lines heading off-screen and I didn't expect them there. My mental model was a tree with a single top-level element.
      - ColinWright 4y ago
        I've experimented in the past with putting a node at the top left to say to people "Scroll down", or "Scroll right", depending on which layout I've used, but folks giving usability feedback who are experienced with it say that it's annoying and irritating constantly to be told something they know. So it's the usual problem of helping the novices versus annoying the experienced. Given that there's no login or other persistence I'm pretty sure I can't solve that. I'll probably put the top-left node back in. Thanks for the feedback.
        Noumenon72 4y ago
        Thanks for listening even when complaints contradict each other. An idea I just had: a little inlay in the upper right showing where you are in the complete image. That would help people realize they could scroll around as well as helping them get context of the shape of the tree.

Great if all you want to read is the initial thread, but if you're interested in any of the discussion, that doesn't really help.

meragrin_ 4y ago
What good is the discussion if you don't fully read the initial thread? That graph makes it really difficult to do.
- ColinWright 4y ago
  You can read the initial thread just by opening the chart and scrolling down ... the initial thread is there down the left side. But, you know, whatever works for you.
  - Noumenon72 4y ago
    Just reporting my experience like a focus group user: I opened the chart and thought "I am supposed to look at the thing on the screen". It was a reply out of context so it didn't make sense. I didn't consider clicking through because there is not an affordability of clicking like an arrow or a URL. I didn't scroll around because the thing I saw didn't grab my interest. I saw your other post and scrolled down to the top tweet on the left. I looked to the immediate right for the self-reply to the top tweet. It wasn't there, so I gave up. I didn't notice the lines heading off-screen and I didn't expect them there. My mental model was a tree with a single top-level element.
    - ColinWright 4y ago
      I've experimented in the past with putting a node at the top left to say to people "Scroll down", or "Scroll right", depending on which layout I've used, but folks giving usability feedback who are experienced with it say that it's annoying and irritating constantly to be told something they know. So it's the usual problem of helping the novices versus annoying the experienced. Given that there's no login or other persistence I'm pretty sure I can't solve that. I'll probably put the top-left node back in. Thanks for the feedback.
      - Noumenon72 4y ago
        Thanks for listening even when complaints contradict each other. An idea I just had: a little inlay in the upper right showing where you are in the complete image. That would help people realize they could scroll around as well as helping them get context of the shape of the tree.