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Uvalde shooting: Texas police change key details as criticism mounts

3 points by LinuxBender 4y ago

newaccount2021 4y ago
LinuxBender 4y ago
I know it is risky to link to such topics as they can evoke emotions. Adding my own anecdotal experience in a similar situation. I was sitting in my vehicle eating unhealthy food in the parking lot. I heard screaming and figured some guy was beating up his wife/gf. I drove around the parking lot only to end up between a family man, woman, 2 children and a gunman with a Smith and Wesson .40 cal. My cell phone happened to be dead so I drove to the closest store and yelled guy with a gun. The police and swat team circled the parking lot for 10-15 mins while the gunman casually drove out and left the scene. I asked the officer in charge and he said "We had to secure the perimeter". The family were physically unharmed. I hope this process evolves and improves with time. Perhaps a small drone launched from a couple officers cars to get perspective on what is going on? Even that is probably too slow. I know how the military would adapt to the situation but there is also a lot of concerns around militarization of the police. Might there be tech that could be used to short circuit the response time? Or is this just a lack of training? [Edit] It seems the DPS director agrees this went very wrong. [1] [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaUXMA8mgzo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaUXMA8mgzo
jessaustin 4y ago
I used to occasionally enjoy wearing my straw cowboy hat while ranching in hot weather. After this clownshow, I'll be leaving that in the closet for a few years. I'm already fat enough to be confused with these pathetic cowardly excuses for police. 20 minutes elapsed between the initial 911 call and the murderer's entry to the school. Some time after that, police arrived, heard gunshots and the terrified screams of young children, and set up a perimeter to exclude parents who were already arriving to personally rescue their own children. Over the next 80 minutes, these walking arguments for smaller government excluded civilian parents with violence and racist insults, while allowing other police officers to enter the school for the sole purpose of rescuing those officers' own children. Over this period, gunshots and terrified screams were heard while children made 911 calls begging rescue for the dwindling number of surviving children. No Anglo officer risked his safety in order to rescue a Latino child. Finally, 80 minutes after the murderer wrecked his truck, the border patrol showed up, walked into the room occupied by the murderer and the corpses of his young victims, and shot the murderer dead. Then the border patrol supervised the process of parents taking custody of their traumatized children, adding more trauma to the situation by implicitly threatening deportation for the many undocumented families whose children attend this school. Some Americans imagine we have any standing to tell any other nation anything. https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/did-texas-police-fail-school-massacre https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/did-texas-police-fail-sc...

3 points by LinuxBender 4y ago

newaccount2021 4y ago

I know it is risky to link to such topics as they can evoke emotions. Adding my own anecdotal experience in a similar situation. I was sitting in my vehicle eating unhealthy food in the parking lot. I heard screaming and figured some guy was beating up his wife/gf. I drove around the parking lot only to end up between a family man, woman, 2 children and a gunman with a Smith and Wesson .40 cal. My cell phone happened to be dead so I drove to the closest store and yelled guy with a gun. The police and swat team circled the parking lot for 10-15 mins while the gunman casually drove out and left the scene. I asked the officer in charge and he said "We had to secure the perimeter". The family were physically unharmed. I hope this process evolves and improves with time. Perhaps a small drone launched from a couple officers cars to get perspective on what is going on? Even that is probably too slow. I know how the military would adapt to the situation but there is also a lot of concerns around militarization of the police. Might there be tech that could be used to short circuit the response time? Or is this just a lack of training? [Edit] It seems the DPS director agrees this went very wrong. [1] [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaUXMA8mgzo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaUXMA8mgzo

jessaustin 4y ago

I used to occasionally enjoy wearing my straw cowboy hat while ranching in hot weather. After this clownshow, I'll be leaving that in the closet for a few years. I'm already fat enough to be confused with these pathetic cowardly excuses for police. 20 minutes elapsed between the initial 911 call and the murderer's entry to the school. Some time after that, police arrived, heard gunshots and the terrified screams of young children, and set up a perimeter to exclude parents who were already arriving to personally rescue their own children. Over the next 80 minutes, these walking arguments for smaller government excluded civilian parents with violence and racist insults, while allowing other police officers to enter the school for the sole purpose of rescuing those officers' own children. Over this period, gunshots and terrified screams were heard while children made 911 calls begging rescue for the dwindling number of surviving children. No Anglo officer risked his safety in order to rescue a Latino child. Finally, 80 minutes after the murderer wrecked his truck, the border patrol showed up, walked into the room occupied by the murderer and the corpses of his young victims, and shot the murderer dead. Then the border patrol supervised the process of parents taking custody of their traumatized children, adding more trauma to the situation by implicitly threatening deportation for the many undocumented families whose children attend this school. Some Americans imagine we have any standing to tell any other nation anything. https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/did-texas-police-fail-school-massacre https://usefulidiots.substack.com/p/did-texas-police-fail-sc...