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Replacing everyone's car => electric car is not the solution. Car ownership needs to plummet.

by foxes 4y ago

wojciii 4y ago
Not everyone lives in a city or near a bike path one can bike on to work/school/kindergarten. Not everyone lives close to public transportation.. So now you want me to not to use a car? I can't bike 60 km to work on public roads.
- Gigachad 4y ago
  Car ownership plummeting doesn't mean that every single person needs to stop driving, for those in edge cases, they would continue. And the aim would be that almost everyone is brought within range of public transport and better walking/cycling options.
- foxes 4y ago
  Where did I mention everyone? Why are you so immediately on the defensive? Maybe if it is not possible for your particular special unique circumstances you have a reasonable exemption. A lot of people however live in cities and don't really need a car, or alternatively need to use it daily. Maybe a car curfew should come first.
  - wojciii 4y ago
    You didn't mention everyone. :) I'm on the defensive because in my country it's usually the politicians living in big cities that tax car ownership based on their own use case - which is being able to bike everywhere and delivering their kids to school using a cargo bike.
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panick21_ 4y ago
Yes but individual companies can't magically fix a countires whole attitude to city planning, biking and public transport. People are gone us cars, and making them elelectric is hugly beneficial.
- foxes 4y ago
  You mean the same companies that lobbied the government to get us in this mess in the first place? They have no responsibility in it at all?
trixie_ 4y ago
Electric cars are absolutely the solution. No one wants to live in your slow mass transit fantasy world. On the other hand we have no problem installing solar/battery systems to charge our own vehicles. Invest in that, drive down prices, and make it more affordable. That's a realistic option. Not owning a car is a non-starter in America. And given the amount of cars sold around the world every year, pretty much everywhere else as well. It really doesn't matter how you get around, what matters is where the energy is coming from. Focus on the root of the problem.
- foxes 4y ago
  I certainly would love to live in a society where convenient efficient public transport is the primary option. Sitting in traffic for hours a week is the bizarre choice. I often ride or catch a train to work past all the cars stuck in a horrible slow crawling gridlock.

Replacing everyone's car => electric car is not the solution. Car ownership needs to plummet.

by foxes 4y ago

Replacing everyone's car => electric car is not the solution. Car ownership needs to plummet.

Not everyone lives in a city or near a bike path one can bike on to work/school/kindergarten. Not everyone lives close to public transportation.. So now you want me to not to use a car? I can't bike 60 km to work on public roads.

Gigachad 4y ago
Car ownership plummeting doesn't mean that every single person needs to stop driving, for those in edge cases, they would continue. And the aim would be that almost everyone is brought within range of public transport and better walking/cycling options.
foxes 4y ago
Where did I mention everyone? Why are you so immediately on the defensive? Maybe if it is not possible for your particular special unique circumstances you have a reasonable exemption. A lot of people however live in cities and don't really need a car, or alternatively need to use it daily. Maybe a car curfew should come first.
- wojciii 4y ago
  You didn't mention everyone. :) I'm on the defensive because in my country it's usually the politicians living in big cities that tax car ownership based on their own use case - which is being able to bike everywhere and delivering their kids to school using a cargo bike.

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panick21_ 4y ago

Yes but individual companies can't magically fix a countires whole attitude to city planning, biking and public transport. People are gone us cars, and making them elelectric is hugly beneficial.

foxes 4y ago
You mean the same companies that lobbied the government to get us in this mess in the first place? They have no responsibility in it at all?

trixie_ 4y ago

Electric cars are absolutely the solution. No one wants to live in your slow mass transit fantasy world. On the other hand we have no problem installing solar/battery systems to charge our own vehicles. Invest in that, drive down prices, and make it more affordable. That's a realistic option. Not owning a car is a non-starter in America. And given the amount of cars sold around the world every year, pretty much everywhere else as well. It really doesn't matter how you get around, what matters is where the energy is coming from. Focus on the root of the problem.

foxes 4y ago
I certainly would love to live in a society where convenient efficient public transport is the primary option. Sitting in traffic for hours a week is the bizarre choice. I often ride or catch a train to work past all the cars stuck in a horrible slow crawling gridlock.