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Cyber truck has 0 miles of range vs 320 on the F-150 because it doesn’t exist yet. Remember how the presenter was able to destroy its windows while demonstrati

Cyber truck has 0 miles of range vs 320 on the F-150 because it doesn’t exist yet. Remember how the presenter was able to destroy its windows while demonstrating how it would protect you from zombies? The fact that they decided to promote cyber truck as protecting from Zombies says more about Tesla and its fanbois than anything else.

panick21_ 4y ago
Comments like this really make me questions peoples just hate Musk so much that their dont want to apply even basic logic. When the window im the presentation split, the ball didnt go in and would not have hurt the driver. Seems to me that is the important part. Go and try throwing large metal ball against the glass of your F-150 and see how well the driver would be doing. I would trade my live for a borken window. Not to mention that they showed videos from backstage where the threw the ball at the door and it didn't crack. Also its clearly not about zombies, debris hitting the glass is a real problem, both on the highway or offroading. Not to mention people smashing windows to steal shit. So clearly this is a useful feature. And in terms of diliveries, it does matter who produces the first 1. It matter who manages to produce 300k or even 500k a year first. And Ford position on battery supply chain is way, way worse and the F-150 needs huge batteries. Unlike Ford Tesla has actually proven the ability to produce 300k BEV a year. Ford has not even produced 300k a year BEV let alone of 1 model that uses 2x as much battery then a normal car. It was only like 1-2 ago when the CEO of Ford said batteries were a non issue and plently were available on the open market. Since then they have realized how dumb that is and actually have made a partnership with a battery company. But they were way late on that and it will hurt their volume.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  > Go and try throwing large metal ball against the glass of your F-150 and see how well the driver would be doing. Let's try throwing a large metal ball against the glass of a Volkswagen Golf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzUh53H_VU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzUh53H_VU > I would trade my live for a borken window Then get the Golf. That way both your life and your window will be unbroken.
- Commodore63 4y ago
  Tesla made a partnership with a battery company, too. They used Panasonic's batteries during their formative years. Why is Tesla beholden to different rules when scaling up?
  - panick21_ 4y ago
    I am not saying they shouldn't do a partnership, I am saying they should have done it many years earlier. Ford were some of the last to commit it, and keeped talking about how the free market for battery would deliver all the batteries they needed.

panick21_ 4y ago

Comments like this really make me questions peoples just hate Musk so much that their dont want to apply even basic logic. When the window im the presentation split, the ball didnt go in and would not have hurt the driver. Seems to me that is the important part. Go and try throwing large metal ball against the glass of your F-150 and see how well the driver would be doing. I would trade my live for a borken window. Not to mention that they showed videos from backstage where the threw the ball at the door and it didn't crack. Also its clearly not about zombies, debris hitting the glass is a real problem, both on the highway or offroading. Not to mention people smashing windows to steal shit. So clearly this is a useful feature. And in terms of diliveries, it does matter who produces the first 1. It matter who manages to produce 300k or even 500k a year first. And Ford position on battery supply chain is way, way worse and the F-150 needs huge batteries. Unlike Ford Tesla has actually proven the ability to produce 300k BEV a year. Ford has not even produced 300k a year BEV let alone of 1 model that uses 2x as much battery then a normal car. It was only like 1-2 ago when the CEO of Ford said batteries were a non issue and plently were available on the open market. Since then they have realized how dumb that is and actually have made a partnership with a battery company. But they were way late on that and it will hurt their volume.

clouddrover 4y ago
> Go and try throwing large metal ball against the glass of your F-150 and see how well the driver would be doing. Let's try throwing a large metal ball against the glass of a Volkswagen Golf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzUh53H_VU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzUh53H_VU > I would trade my live for a borken window Then get the Golf. That way both your life and your window will be unbroken.
Commodore63 4y ago
Tesla made a partnership with a battery company, too. They used Panasonic's batteries during their formative years. Why is Tesla beholden to different rules when scaling up?
- panick21_ 4y ago
  I am not saying they shouldn't do a partnership, I am saying they should have done it many years earlier. Ford were some of the last to commit it, and keeped talking about how the free market for battery would deliver all the batteries they needed.