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Let me add a small correction: private monopolies led to high prices, because when our (EU) TLCs where just a single public company quality of service where far

by kkfx 4y ago

Let me add a small correction: private monopolies led to high prices, because when our (EU) TLCs where just a single public company quality of service where far superior and prices were FAR lower than now. So to say: ANY national critical infra like: - transportation means (roads, rails networks for instance) - energy production and distribution - TLCs - health, pharma included - weapons productions MUST be ONLY and ONLY public shows for the sake of the State and Democracy itself. We in the west have lost our global position for the sake of few legal thief profits. Do remember that VERY well.

concordDance 4y ago
You seem to imply those were provided by the government at the hight of European power (well, "position"), but that doesn't ring true to me. When was drug invention and making done by governments in Europe? Was weapon making done by governments rather than companies other than in the world wars? When did they do energy production?
- kkfx 4y ago
  > When was drug invention and making done by governments in Europe? Always for war/research, as in the USA with the NIH before the infamous Bayh-Dole Act, all "private" research in EU was done mostly by individuals paied by the public. Electricity? The same: all EU countries, well at least all major countries (not sure for some non-major) have had ONE unique State/public electricity operator. TLCs? The very same. Water supply? The very same. Rails? Equally. When "privatizations" start they were prepared to DEMOLISH, slowly, the public parts to justify a passage and then they made hyper-expensive and hyper-bad services also reducing much their coverage. Back than for instance in my home country (Italy) TeTi (national phone operator) was obliged by law to connect any home anywhere, after privatization, renamed SIP, law change they are "obliged only if possible". Rails? I do not have a map for Italy, but was roughly the same, here is for France: http://carfree.fr/img/2015/06/sncf.jpg http://carfree.fr/img/2015/06/sncf.jpg of course the left side was when rails were public. About health: when my mother was young (she's a surgeon) at she's hospital there was a mess, in the sense that there was far less "style" and "property" in hoteliers terms, but ANYONE were admitted in the shortest possible time, witch means roughly short and no special "triage/color bureaucracy", now good luck if you need emergency services they are cut and bureaucratized so badly that just for a broken finger you might need HOURS of waiting time. Long story short ANYTHING has degraded except of some private profits. > Was weapon making done by governments rather than companies other than in the world wars? Only in the far past, not in the last century UNFORTUNATELY. > When did they do energy production? Until around the '60s all "big national player" like ENEL (Italy), EDF (France), Endesa (Spain) etc was 100% public, oh and at that time 90% of nuclear reactor was built and put in service. They are still there. All new ones after privatizations IF there is ONLY one in service is a record. And a very expensive and late record.

by kkfx 4y ago

concordDance 4y ago

You seem to imply those were provided by the government at the hight of European power (well, "position"), but that doesn't ring true to me. When was drug invention and making done by governments in Europe? Was weapon making done by governments rather than companies other than in the world wars? When did they do energy production?

kkfx 4y ago
> When was drug invention and making done by governments in Europe? Always for war/research, as in the USA with the NIH before the infamous Bayh-Dole Act, all "private" research in EU was done mostly by individuals paied by the public. Electricity? The same: all EU countries, well at least all major countries (not sure for some non-major) have had ONE unique State/public electricity operator. TLCs? The very same. Water supply? The very same. Rails? Equally. When "privatizations" start they were prepared to DEMOLISH, slowly, the public parts to justify a passage and then they made hyper-expensive and hyper-bad services also reducing much their coverage. Back than for instance in my home country (Italy) TeTi (national phone operator) was obliged by law to connect any home anywhere, after privatization, renamed SIP, law change they are "obliged only if possible". Rails? I do not have a map for Italy, but was roughly the same, here is for France: http://carfree.fr/img/2015/06/sncf.jpg http://carfree.fr/img/2015/06/sncf.jpg of course the left side was when rails were public. About health: when my mother was young (she's a surgeon) at she's hospital there was a mess, in the sense that there was far less "style" and "property" in hoteliers terms, but ANYONE were admitted in the shortest possible time, witch means roughly short and no special "triage/color bureaucracy", now good luck if you need emergency services they are cut and bureaucratized so badly that just for a broken finger you might need HOURS of waiting time. Long story short ANYTHING has degraded except of some private profits. > Was weapon making done by governments rather than companies other than in the world wars? Only in the far past, not in the last century UNFORTUNATELY. > When did they do energy production? Until around the '60s all "big national player" like ENEL (Italy), EDF (France), Endesa (Spain) etc was 100% public, oh and at that time 90% of nuclear reactor was built and put in service. They are still there. All new ones after privatizations IF there is ONLY one in service is a record. And a very expensive and late record.