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"There is nothing Apple can do to make such repairs quick or easy." Uh. Apple literally designs every part of the product in excruciating detail. Pretty sure t

"There is nothing Apple can do to make such repairs quick or easy." Uh. Apple literally designs every part of the product in excruciating detail. Pretty sure they can make such repairs quick and easy if they wanted to. We're talking about a battery replacement, not a replacement laser for a shark. Phones used to have batteries replaceable in moments without tools. Now it requires 79 pounds of tools. That does seem like a backwards step, though IP water resistance ratings are all the rage now. However, Apple made the currently existing phones without self repair in mind. Maybe their next generation will do better.

rendall 4y ago
Not a fan of Apple, but the sleek silhouette of their devices is accomplished only by packing everything in tight and clever. So, sure, they could give DIYers more room and robust components, but that would make the devices bulky and heavy. So, while I think Apple can be criticized on multiple levels, does not provide excellent self-repair experience is not on my list of grievances.
- _carbyau_ 4y ago
  Everything is a trade off, you are correct that something like screws/tabs etc would indeed make things bulkier - but how much bulkier would be determined by the design. I am confident that the designers at Apple could figure out a compromise to make self repair much easier - not necessarily tool-less! - while keeping the phone pretty damn close to current proportions.
- rendall 4y ago
  Just, to close this out, being "confident" or "sure" that "it is possible" Apple industrial designers could do this or that, is not an argument. Demostrating that it is possible is. Those arguing here that they are confident iDevices could have the same sleek, lightweight design; keep the price point; and in addition have them be easily user-repairable should demonstrate how, not just assert that it is possible.
- woojoo666 4y ago
  I think it's possible to make it sleek and still repairable, Apple just doesn't have much incentive to spend time trying to make it so
  - rendall 4y ago
    > I think it's possible to make it sleek and still repairable Well, you are an expert in the field, so if anyone would know, you would.
    - woojoo666 4y ago
      I'm not an expert but neither are the people claiming that Apple has to sacrifice repairability for sleeker phones
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rendall 4y ago

Not a fan of Apple, but the sleek silhouette of their devices is accomplished only by packing everything in tight and clever. So, sure, they could give DIYers more room and robust components, but that would make the devices bulky and heavy. So, while I think Apple can be criticized on multiple levels, does not provide excellent self-repair experience is not on my list of grievances.

_carbyau_ 4y ago
Everything is a trade off, you are correct that something like screws/tabs etc would indeed make things bulkier - but how much bulkier would be determined by the design. I am confident that the designers at Apple could figure out a compromise to make self repair much easier - not necessarily tool-less! - while keeping the phone pretty damn close to current proportions.
rendall 4y ago
Just, to close this out, being "confident" or "sure" that "it is possible" Apple industrial designers could do this or that, is not an argument. Demostrating that it is possible is. Those arguing here that they are confident iDevices could have the same sleek, lightweight design; keep the price point; and in addition have them be easily user-repairable should demonstrate how, not just assert that it is possible.
woojoo666 4y ago
I think it's possible to make it sleek and still repairable, Apple just doesn't have much incentive to spend time trying to make it so
- rendall 4y ago
  > I think it's possible to make it sleek and still repairable Well, you are an expert in the field, so if anyone would know, you would.
  - woojoo666 4y ago
    I'm not an expert but neither are the people claiming that Apple has to sacrifice repairability for sleeker phones
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