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> I went and played some turns of Civilization that I haven't touched in half a decade a couple weeks ago. Every couple years I like to play a couple matches of

> I went and played some turns of Civilization that I haven't touched in half a decade a couple weeks ago. Every couple years I like to play a couple matches of Mechwarrior 2. These things don't self destruct. They harken from an age before online services, when personal computers let us manage & operate our own systems, let us backup our saves & our games. It takes time. > In a way that doesn't explode unexpectedly? Yeah, right, I'm the mean one here. Please, this is just more facetiously cruel antagonizing. What is with the anti-social cruelty? It doesn't explode unexpectedly. It explodes in a way that the creator made it explode. So, yeah, it seems that you are the mean one here.

lmm 4y ago
Very rarely is "exploding" part of the artistic intent. More likely it's something the auteur was never consulted on and the publisher didn't care enough to avoid.
rektide 4y ago
Your insistence & persistence in both being cruel to consumers & also personally insulting me at the same time is remarkable. There's been a pretty fair & reasonable deal in computing for decades. Preservation is getting harder, worse, impossible. This is- pretty clearly to most of us- a loss.
- Kbelicius 4y ago
  > Your insistence & persistence in both being cruel to consumers & also personally insulting me at the same time is remarkable. As far as I can see the only think I'm saying here is that creators should be able to create things as they see fit. I did not say a word about consumers or what they should be doing. I would love to know what gives you the impression that I'm being cruel to consumers here. You did insult me first, why are you surprised that I would defend myself? You are even doing it in this post to.
  - mrob 4y ago
    >creators should be able to create things as they see fit So you support the abolition of copyright law? That would certainly go a long way toward solving the problem of media self-destructing within human timescales. But if creators get to benefit from government granted monopolies, it's only fair that we introduce some consumer-protection law too. Copyright was intended to benefit both consumers and producers. Deliberate destruction of media is a sign that it's drifted too far in the producers' favor.
    - Kbelicius 4y ago
      When I wrote "creators should be able to create things as they see fit" I wasn't really thinking that as allowing them to ignore laws, like safety and such. As for my opinion on copyright laws, I guess I'd be for their abolition. But that is just my opinion that isn't really based on any real knowledge of these laws or what consequences they have/removing them would have. > But if creators get to benefit from government granted monopolies, it's only fair that we introduce some consumer-protection law too. With this I wholeheartedly agree.
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lmm 4y ago

Very rarely is "exploding" part of the artistic intent. More likely it's something the auteur was never consulted on and the publisher didn't care enough to avoid.

rektide 4y ago

Your insistence & persistence in both being cruel to consumers & also personally insulting me at the same time is remarkable. There's been a pretty fair & reasonable deal in computing for decades. Preservation is getting harder, worse, impossible. This is- pretty clearly to most of us- a loss.

Kbelicius 4y ago
> Your insistence & persistence in both being cruel to consumers & also personally insulting me at the same time is remarkable. As far as I can see the only think I'm saying here is that creators should be able to create things as they see fit. I did not say a word about consumers or what they should be doing. I would love to know what gives you the impression that I'm being cruel to consumers here. You did insult me first, why are you surprised that I would defend myself? You are even doing it in this post to.
- mrob 4y ago
  >creators should be able to create things as they see fit So you support the abolition of copyright law? That would certainly go a long way toward solving the problem of media self-destructing within human timescales. But if creators get to benefit from government granted monopolies, it's only fair that we introduce some consumer-protection law too. Copyright was intended to benefit both consumers and producers. Deliberate destruction of media is a sign that it's drifted too far in the producers' favor.
  - Kbelicius 4y ago
    When I wrote "creators should be able to create things as they see fit" I wasn't really thinking that as allowing them to ignore laws, like safety and such. As for my opinion on copyright laws, I guess I'd be for their abolition. But that is just my opinion that isn't really based on any real knowledge of these laws or what consequences they have/removing them would have. > But if creators get to benefit from government granted monopolies, it's only fair that we introduce some consumer-protection law too. With this I wholeheartedly agree.

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