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Any youtuber that uploads comment/react/compilation/commentary videos are good targets. This is not a new thing. It's been going on for at least 4-5 years if n

Any youtuber that uploads comment/react/compilation/commentary videos are good targets. This is not a new thing. It's been going on for at least 4-5 years if not more. Blackmail is also a thing. "take down video x or I'll strike your account" and such.

savanaly 4y ago
>Blackmail is also a thing. "take down video x or I'll strike your account" and such. That's still not blackmail. Blackmail is when you threaten to divulge information about someone unless they pay you.
- sshine 4y ago
  Just repeating the logic for my own OCD: Blackmail is when someone threatens to release your nudes unless you pay them. Extortion is when someone threatens to get you banned on YouTube unless you pay them. Maybe that's because of trolling, because they don't like your content, or simply because they can get paid.
  - DarylZero 4y ago
    Blackmail is a specific type of extortion, but people often use the word "blackmail" when they mean extortion in general.
  - Jensson 4y ago
    But they threaten to send information to YouTube unless you pay them. That information will likely get you banned. They don't got the power to ban you, all they can do is reveal information about you.
    - filoleg 4y ago
      Filing false copyright or "circumvention of technological measures" claims to youtube against your channel is not the same as "revealing information about you" at all.
- croes 4y ago
  The information that is divulged on is the "knowledge" about the circumvention of technical measures. "Extortion is a form of theft that occurs when an offender obtains money, property, or services from another person through coercion. A form of extortion could include the threat of physical injury, destruction of property, or improper government action." "Blackmail, in contrast to extortion, is when the offender threatens to reveal information about a victim or his family members that is potentially embarrassing, socially damaging, or incriminating unless a demand for money, property, or services is met."
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    succinct: Extortion is when someone threatens to hurt you by doing something like getting your account banned. Blackmail is when someone threatens to tell your secret. Blackmail is a specific type of extortion.
    - croes 4y ago
      Blackmail is about publishing harmful information, this information doesn't have to true. If I threaten to tell your partner that you are cheating even if you don't, that is blackmail. If I threaten to tell your google that you are circumventing technological measures even if you don't, that is blackmail. Neither is physical injury, destruction of property, or an improper government action.
      - samatman 4y ago
        No, it is primarily about damaging reputation. Threatening to call a SWAT team to someone's house if they don't pay you is extortion, not blackmail, even though you're providing 'information' to the police, it is to cause a physical threat, not to damage reputation. The result here is destruction of income, not damage to reputation. It's extortion.
        croes 4y ago
        Your example of calling a SWAT team is improper government action. But if I tell your threaten you to tell your employer you are stealing from him it's blackmail. If you get fired it's destruction of income but still blackmail. Or an example of former times. I threaten to tell your boss you are gay, you get fired if I do, also destruction of income. It's not the result but the type of threat. Extortion requires some sort of physical force blackmail is verbal
kazinator 4y ago
Blackmail is: "I have a video of you doing X, and will post it online unless you do Y". Not: "I will take down X video of yours unless you do Y". That's just extortion.

savanaly 4y ago

>Blackmail is also a thing. "take down video x or I'll strike your account" and such. That's still not blackmail. Blackmail is when you threaten to divulge information about someone unless they pay you.

sshine 4y ago
Just repeating the logic for my own OCD: Blackmail is when someone threatens to release your nudes unless you pay them. Extortion is when someone threatens to get you banned on YouTube unless you pay them. Maybe that's because of trolling, because they don't like your content, or simply because they can get paid.
- DarylZero 4y ago
  Blackmail is a specific type of extortion, but people often use the word "blackmail" when they mean extortion in general.
- Jensson 4y ago
  But they threaten to send information to YouTube unless you pay them. That information will likely get you banned. They don't got the power to ban you, all they can do is reveal information about you.
  - filoleg 4y ago
    Filing false copyright or "circumvention of technological measures" claims to youtube against your channel is not the same as "revealing information about you" at all.
croes 4y ago
The information that is divulged on is the "knowledge" about the circumvention of technical measures. "Extortion is a form of theft that occurs when an offender obtains money, property, or services from another person through coercion. A form of extortion could include the threat of physical injury, destruction of property, or improper government action." "Blackmail, in contrast to extortion, is when the offender threatens to reveal information about a victim or his family members that is potentially embarrassing, socially damaging, or incriminating unless a demand for money, property, or services is met."
- pessimizer 4y ago
  succinct: Extortion is when someone threatens to hurt you by doing something like getting your account banned. Blackmail is when someone threatens to tell your secret. Blackmail is a specific type of extortion.
  - croes 4y ago
    Blackmail is about publishing harmful information, this information doesn't have to true. If I threaten to tell your partner that you are cheating even if you don't, that is blackmail. If I threaten to tell your google that you are circumventing technological measures even if you don't, that is blackmail. Neither is physical injury, destruction of property, or an improper government action.
    - samatman 4y ago
      No, it is primarily about damaging reputation. Threatening to call a SWAT team to someone's house if they don't pay you is extortion, not blackmail, even though you're providing 'information' to the police, it is to cause a physical threat, not to damage reputation. The result here is destruction of income, not damage to reputation. It's extortion.
      - croes 4y ago
        Your example of calling a SWAT team is improper government action. But if I tell your threaten you to tell your employer you are stealing from him it's blackmail. If you get fired it's destruction of income but still blackmail. Or an example of former times. I threaten to tell your boss you are gay, you get fired if I do, also destruction of income. It's not the result but the type of threat. Extortion requires some sort of physical force blackmail is verbal

kazinator 4y ago

Blackmail is: "I have a video of you doing X, and will post it online unless you do Y". Not: "I will take down X video of yours unless you do Y". That's just extortion.