Same. It was also obviously not working for at least 18 to 24 months before the failure. In the most recent case, the founder was stubborn, wouldn't pivot, kept

Same. It was also obviously not working for at least 18 to 24 months before the failure. In the most recent case, the founder was stubborn, wouldn't pivot, kept trying to put lipstick on a pig. The technology worked, the business model didn't.