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> The only thing they've done is disable it in the hybrid Alder Lake cores That is incorrect. You can buy Alder Lake CPUs that only have one type of core (the
by coder543 4y ago
> The only thing they've done is disable it in the hybrid Alder Lake cores
That is incorrect. You can buy Alder Lake CPUs that only have one type of core (the i3 series only has P-cores, for example), and those do not support AVX-512 either. They're not "hybrid" in any way.
Some of their motherboard partners initially allowed you to access AVX-512, but Intel has put a stop to this and the feature is disabled on all Alder Lake CPU SKUs, period.
Newer Alder Lake chips have AVX-512 fused off in silicon, if the firmware blob disabling it isn’t enough: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-nukes-alder-lake-avx-512-now-fuses-it-off-in-silicon https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-nukes-alder-lake-avx...
> Intel is not dropping support for it on a lot of CPUs.
That seems like a pretty questionable statement. Intel might keep AVX-512 around for Xeon, but it seems extremely dead on the consumer market. If Intel decides to bring it back for the next generation, that would be strange and very poor planning.
- gpderetta 4y agoIt seems likely that the reason is that some intel customers are willing to pai a significant premium for the feature and intel doesn't want it to be available for cheap
- arthur2e5 4y agoIf what they’ve done with ECC memory is any indication, this sort of market segmentation would only slow down or even kill adoption of AVX-512 in the consumer sphere. Welp, at least there’s no reliability issue here, so Torvalds is unlikely to get angry anytime soon.
- gpderetta 4y agoProbably intel doesn't care about AVX-512 in the consumer sphere.
- g42gregory 4y agoIn consumer market, Intel supported AVX-512 only on -X, HEDT processors. There is a rumor that either Adler Lake-X is coming out or it will be folded into Xeon -W workstation line. It will support AVX-512.
- coder543 4y agoI’m fairly sure the bog-standard consumer Rocket Lake processors had AVX-512.